{"id":9739,"date":"2014-08-03T16:29:33","date_gmt":"2014-08-03T20:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=9739"},"modified":"2014-08-03T16:31:54","modified_gmt":"2014-08-03T20:31:54","slug":"children-cancer-clusters-citizen-water-tests-ga-epd-2014-07-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/children-cancer-clusters-citizen-water-tests-ga-epd-2014-07-17.html","title":{"rendered":"Children, cancer clusters, citizen water tests @ GA EPD 2014-07-17"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/i4w7QeM-sGY\/mqdefault.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nCitizens are not convinced EPA, GA-EPD, and GA Dept. of Health<br \/>\nare doing enough to find what&#8217;s causing widespread sickness and death<br \/>\nin Waycross, GA.<br \/>\nThey asked questions and provided data and anecdotes for more than<br \/>\nan hour, demanding more testing and answers, at a meeting<br \/>\nabout the Seven Out Superfund and other air and water contamination,<br \/>\nfor example from CSX and AGL.<\/p>\n<p>\nGeorgia Department of Health did<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Community-help-with-survey\"><br \/>\noffer a new survey<\/a>, with local help.<br \/>\nShe also offered to send a local health dept. rep. right out whenever<br \/>\nthey were alerted a certain site stunk after rains.<br \/>\nEPA and GA-EPD admitted there was a problem and said they were<br \/>\ntrying to fix it,<br \/>\nwhich is a step forward from<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/12\/epa-ga-epd-and-southeast-health-in-waycross-about-seven-out-superfund-epa-2013-11-14.html#Huyser\"><br \/>\ntheir preliminary Waycross meeting last November<\/a>.<br \/>\nBut not a big enough step or quick enough to satisfy Waycross people who are or<br \/>\nwho know many who are sick or dying.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThey asked very insightful questions, about<!--more--><br \/>\n<a href=\"#Children-play-there-every\">children exposed daily everywhere they go<\/a>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Cocktail-of-chemicals\">synergistic effects<\/a><br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\"><br \/>\nwhether the agencies had actually found anybody sick from these chemicals<\/a>,<br \/>\nabout<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Private-cleanup-a-big-win\">unsellable property<\/a>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Surface-water-contamination\"><br \/>\nsurface water contamination<\/a><br \/>\nthat might affect the<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\"><br \/>\nSatilla River<\/a>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Well-testing-when\"><br \/>\nwell testing, when, where, rainfall or not<\/a>,<br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Wells-vs-city-water\"><br \/>\nvs. city water<\/a>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"#To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\"><br \/>\nlandfills used to dispose of contaminated soil<\/a>,<br \/>\nand many more.<br \/>\nJoan M. Tibor had even<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\"><br \/>\nrented an instrument and done her own testing<\/a>,<br \/>\nbut her results<br \/>\n<a href=\"#Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\"><br \/>\nwere pooh-poohed by EPA<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSure, it&#8217;s a hard problem, as I mentioned to GA-EPD<br \/>\nafterwards, but as I mentioned to GA-EPD afterwards,<br \/>\nthey&#8217;ve got a very willing public ready to help.<\/p>\n<p>\nAt the front table, left to right:<br \/>\nJame M. Perry of Georgia Department of Health,<br \/>\nJim Brown of GA EPD,<br \/>\n(unknown),<br \/>\nMatthew J. Huyser of EPA.<br \/>\nThey apparently gave slide presentations for the first hour.<br \/>\nI arrived just after Q&amp;A had started.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nHere are links to the individual videos, followed by a video playlist.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\"><br \/>\na video playlist:<\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Children-play-there-every\" href=\"#Children-play-there-every\"><br \/>\nChildren play there every &#8211;Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Children play there every --Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=i4w7QeM-sGY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Children play there every --Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/i4w7QeM-sGY\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=i4w7QeM-sGY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=1\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nJame M. Perry, Georgia Department of Health, said:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\n&#8230;exposure calculations &#8230; a child playing on a hot spot a certain<br \/>\namount of hours every day for a certain number of years&#8230;<br \/>\nand just the levels are so low that&#8230;.<br \/>\n<\/P>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nJoan M. Tibor, an organizer of citizens&#8217; group <a href=\"http:\/\/silentdisaster.org\/\">SilentDisaster.org<\/a>, rebutted:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nYou&#8217;re saying a child plays there twice.<br \/>\nWell there&#8217;s children in that neighborhood that play there every single day.<br \/>\nNot only do they play there every single day, then they go home to their yards<br \/>\nand they play in their own yards, that are like mine: they&#8217;re contaminated, also.<br \/>\nAnd then they&#8217;re breathing some of that air,<br \/>\nand then they&#8217;re drinking some of that water,<br \/>\nthat we say benzene, pyrene won&#8217;t get down in our water system.<br \/>\nWell if it&#8217;s not, can&#8217;t get in our water system, why is CSX<br \/>\nand AGL<br \/>\nreport it in the water.<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s 24 hour exposure.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nThe moderator appealed for calm.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nAnother citizen displayed a letter from Atlanta Gas in 2001<br \/>\nsaying AGL had found contamination in an area near a now-closed<br \/>\nAGL location.<br \/>\nThe GA-EPD rep asserted that AGL had<br \/>\n&#8220;removed the contamination<br \/>\ndown to a concentration below the most strict safety level there is&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nSeveral other citizens spoke in this video, including<br \/>\none woman who said her family had not had any health problems<br \/>\nuntil they moved to Waycross, and:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nThere are children all over sick.<br \/>\nPeople told me when I first moved here, &#8220;don&#8217;t drink the water.&#8221;<br \/>\nI thought they were crazy.<br \/>\nBut then we moved here and my whole family&#8217;s been sick.<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s something here and if you don&#8217;t want to find it you&#8217;re not<br \/>\ngoing to find it.<\/p>\n<p>\nBut if you want to find it y&#8217;all do your testing of the air, soil,<br \/>\nand water of the schools and the neighborhoods<br \/>\nand protecting the community because that&#8217;s what y&#8217;all are supposed to do.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Community-help-with-survey\" href=\"#Community-help-with-survey\"><br \/>\nCommunity help with survey? &#8211;Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Community help with survey? --Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZCGBhk3R3VY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=2\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Community help with survey? --Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ZCGBhk3R3VY\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZCGBhk3R3VY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=2\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nMs. Perry said she&#8217;d like to conduct another study, but<br \/>\n&#8220;that would require going in and doing another similar survey.&#8221;<br \/>\nShe asked if the citizens thought that would be a good idea, and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nIf we could get help from the community to distribute hundreds of surveys<br \/>\nwhere we could get all the data we need, we could do that over a relatively<br \/>\nshort period of time.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nApparently I didn&#8217;t get it on video, but citizens really liked<br \/>\nthat idea and volunteered to help distribute the survey.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Surface-water-contamination\" href=\"#Surface-water-contamination\"><br \/>\nSurface water contamination? &#8211;Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Surface water contamination? --Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9qgZGB0NIEU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=3\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Surface water contamination? --Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9qgZGB0NIEU\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9qgZGB0NIEU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=3\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Instrument-calibration-procedures\" href=\"#Instrument-calibration-procedures\"><br \/>\nInstrument calibration procedures?<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Instrument calibration procedures?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ai2fe23CizQ&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=4\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Instrument calibration procedures?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ai2fe23CizQ\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ai2fe23CizQ&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=4\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Cocktail-of-chemicals\" href=\"#Cocktail-of-chemicals\"><br \/>\nCocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Cocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bVTAiFaa9As&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=5\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Cocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/bVTAiFaa9As\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bVTAiFaa9As&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=5\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nShe wanted to know what health effects were caused by combinations<br \/>\nof chemicals.<br \/>\nEPA&#8217;s Matthew J. Huyser said they tested for specific chemicals,<br \/>\nand even with that they needed something to lead them back to a source<br \/>\nto tie any health effects to any chemical.<br \/>\nHe offered as part of EPA&#8217;s ongoing health consultation<br \/>\nthey would try to gather more chemicals,<br \/>\nbut it was almost impossible to go backwards from a health effect<br \/>\nto a chemical cause.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nShe had to ask her question several different ways,<br \/>\nsuch as aspirin having ill effects in combination with certain other medications,<br \/>\nbefore GA Health&#8217;s Jane M. Perry<br \/>\nfinally got what she wanted to know, and came up with the<br \/>\nbuzzword:<br \/>\nsynergistic or additive effects.<br \/>\nShe said nonetheless &#8220;we can&#8217;t; we don&#8217;t&#8221; and<br \/>\nthey dealt with separate exposures and separate effects.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\nGA EPD&#8217;s Jim Brown expounded that dosage or concentration also mattered,<br \/>\nand pointed out that a low dosage of one chemical could affect<br \/>\neffects of another.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Property-owner-next-to-Seven-Out-site\" href=\"#Property-owner-next-to-Seven-Out-site\"><br \/>\nProperty owner next to Seven Out site<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Property owner next to Seven Out site\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dM40fQLpS-0&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=6\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Property owner next to Seven Out site\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/dM40fQLpS-0\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dM40fQLpS-0&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=6\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nHe said he had had no illness, nor had anybody who worked for him there.<br \/>\nBut in the next video&#8230;.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Private-cleanup-a-big-win\" href=\"#Private-cleanup-a-big-win\"><br \/>\nPrivate cleanup a big win &#8211;Matthew J. Huyser, EPA<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Private cleanup a big win --Matthew J. Huyser, EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Vpfh_Z5Iwfs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=7\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Private cleanup a big win --Matthew J. Huyser, EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Vpfh_Z5Iwfs\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Vpfh_Z5Iwfs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=7\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nThe nearest property owner said he couldn&#8217;t sell his property.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Not-everybody-affected-we-take-that-into-account\" href=\"#Not-everybody-affected-we-take-that-into-account\"><br \/>\nNot everybody affected; we take that into account &#8211;Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Not everybody affected; we take that into account --Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U0C4nzLY3Xw&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=8\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Not everybody affected; we take that into account --Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/U0C4nzLY3Xw\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U0C4nzLY3Xw&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=8\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Some-don-t-report-out-of-fear\" href=\"#Some-don-t-report-out-of-fear\"><br \/>\nSome don&#8217;t report out of fear &#8211;Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Some don't report out of fear --Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rbVbK0i2buU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=9\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Some don't report out of fear --Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/rbVbK0i2buU\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rbVbK0i2buU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=9\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Did-you-test-the-CSX-property-at-the-canal\" href=\"#Did-you-test-the-CSX-property-at-the-canal\"><br \/>\nDid you test the CSX property at the canal?<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Did you test the CSX property at the canal?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4dI-Dju9_II&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=10\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Did you test the CSX property at the canal?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/4dI-Dju9_II\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4dI-Dju9_II&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=10\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Well-testing-when\" href=\"#Well-testing-when\"><br \/>\nWell testing: when, where, rain or not? &#8211;Neill Herring<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Well testing: when, where, rain or not? --Neill Herring\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9mK8VuKJthg&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=11\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Well testing: when, where, rain or not? --Neill Herring\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9mK8VuKJthg\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9mK8VuKJthg&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=11\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\" href=\"#Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\"><br \/>\nConcerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Concerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RvAVbk3OR-Q&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=12\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Concerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/RvAVbk3OR-Q\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RvAVbk3OR-Q&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=12\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\" href=\"#To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\"><br \/>\nTo what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: To what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Sw651HjsjTc&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=13\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"To what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Sw651HjsjTc\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Sw651HjsjTc&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=13\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nWe know some of it went to<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/12\/u-s-epa-ga-dnr-ga-health-dept-and-landfill-in-lowndes-county-epa-2013-11-14.html\"><br \/>\nthe Pecan Row Landfill in Lowndes County<\/a>.<br \/>\nWWALS Watershed Coalition Ambassador Dave Hetzel stayed late to ask<br \/>\nabout what other landfills, such as in Tift County.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Tank-farm-tested-twice-a-year\" href=\"#Tank-farm-tested-twice-a-year\"><br \/>\nTank farm tested twice a year &#8211;Jim Brown GA-EPD<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Tank farm tested twice a year --Jim Brown GA-EPD\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eNeGagH-IO8&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=14\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Tank farm tested twice a year --Jim Brown GA-EPD\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/eNeGagH-IO8\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eNeGagH-IO8&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=14\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\" href=\"#Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\"><br \/>\nHave you found anybody sick from these chemicals? &#8220;So many factors&#8221; &#8211;EPA<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Have you found anybody sick from these chemicals? So many factors --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z-ADM7Yod9o&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=15\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Have you found anybody sick from these chemicals? So many factors --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/z-ADM7Yod9o\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z-ADM7Yod9o&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=15\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Wells-vs-city-water\" href=\"#Wells-vs-city-water\"><br \/>\nWells vs. city water, which is &#8220;rigorously tested&#8221; &#8211;EPA<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Wells vs. city water, which is rigorously tested --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MDGRTuDL6GU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=16\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Wells vs. city water, which is rigorously tested --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/MDGRTuDL6GU\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MDGRTuDL6GU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=16\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\" href=\"#Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\"><br \/>\nVolatile compound testing by citizens &#8211;Joan M. Tibor<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Volatile compound testing by citizens --Joan M. Tibor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MPi-oUBcKVE&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=17\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Volatile compound testing by citizens --Joan M. Tibor\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/MPi-oUBcKVE\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MPi-oUBcKVE&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=17\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\" href=\"#Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\"><br \/>\nTested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different &#8211;Joan Tibor<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Tested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different --Joan Tibor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=n8_YGJa_Yio&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=18\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Tested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different --Joan Tibor\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/n8_YGJa_Yio\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=n8_YGJa_Yio&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=18\">Video.<\/a><br \/>\nEPA&#8217;s Matthew Huyser said he thought the instrument she was using<br \/>\nwas barely good for qualitative tests, and not at all for quantitative tests.<br \/>\nWhich seems like a strange reaction to me, considering she just said<br \/>\nshe demonstrated one well&#8217;s water didn&#8217;t produce VOCs at any temperature.<br \/>\nPlus if he doesn&#8217;t like the instrument she&#8217;s using, how about offering<br \/>\nto supply a better one, or to have someone do such tests?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCras-BX1QgMEUmxobuZThoA\/playlists\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ew94bOD6h5g\/mqdefault.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nShe said she had videos of those tests,<br \/>\nand she has put them<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCras-BX1QgMEUmxobuZThoA\/playlists\"><br \/>\non YouTube<\/a><br \/>\nwith<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/518314641632808\/?ref=4\"><br \/>\ncontext on facebook<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<li>\n<a name=\"Time-up-on-the-room-send-questions\" href=\"#Time-up-on-the-room-send-questions\"><br \/>\nTime up on the room; send questions &#8211;EPA<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"video: Time up on the room; send questions --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mw1xrqSDFGA&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=19\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Time up on the room; send questions --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/mw1xrqSDFGA\/default.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mw1xrqSDFGA&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=19\">Video.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nHere&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\"><br \/>\nthe video playlist:<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/videoseries?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\n<br \/>\nChildren, cancer clusters, citizen water tests<br \/>\n<br \/>\nSeven Out Superfund Assessment,<br \/>\n<br \/>\nPublic Meeting, Georgia Environmental Protection Division (GA EPD),<br \/>\n<br \/>\nVideo by John S. Quarterman for Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange (LAKE),<br \/>\n<br \/>\nWaycross, Ware County, Georgia, 17 July 2014.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n -jsq<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Citizens are not convinced EPA, GA-EPD, and GA Dept. of Health are doing enough to find what&#8217;s causing widespread sickness and death in Waycross, GA. 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