{"id":9739,"date":"2014-08-03T16:29:33","date_gmt":"2014-08-03T20:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=9739"},"modified":"2014-08-03T16:31:54","modified_gmt":"2014-08-03T20:31:54","slug":"children-cancer-clusters-citizen-water-tests-ga-epd-2014-07-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/children-cancer-clusters-citizen-water-tests-ga-epd-2014-07-17.html","title":{"rendered":"Children, cancer clusters, citizen water tests @ GA EPD 2014-07-17"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/i4w7QeM-sGY\/mqdefault.jpg\"><\/a>\r\nCitizens are not convinced EPA, GA-EPD, and GA Dept. of Health\r\nare doing enough to find what&#8217;s causing widespread sickness and death\r\nin Waycross, GA.\r\nThey asked questions and provided data and anecdotes for more than\r\nan hour, demanding more testing and answers, at a meeting\r\nabout the Seven Out Superfund and other air and water contamination,\r\nfor example from CSX and AGL.\r\n<p>\r\nGeorgia Department of Health did\r\n<a href=\"#Community-help-with-survey\">\r\noffer a new survey<\/a>, with local help.\r\nShe also offered to send a local health dept. rep. right out whenever\r\nthey were alerted a certain site stunk after rains.\r\nEPA and GA-EPD admitted there was a problem and said they were\r\ntrying to fix it,\r\nwhich is a step forward from\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/12\/epa-ga-epd-and-southeast-health-in-waycross-about-seven-out-superfund-epa-2013-11-14.html#Huyser\">\r\ntheir preliminary Waycross meeting last November<\/a>.\r\nBut not a big enough step or quick enough to satisfy Waycross people who are or\r\nwho know many who are sick or dying.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nThey asked very insightful questions, about<!--more-->\r\n<a href=\"#Children-play-there-every\">children exposed daily everywhere they go<\/a>,\r\n<a href=\"#Cocktail-of-chemicals\">synergistic effects<\/a>\r\nand\r\n<a href=\"#Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\">\r\nwhether the agencies had actually found anybody sick from these chemicals<\/a>,\r\nabout\r\n<a href=\"#Private-cleanup-a-big-win\">unsellable property<\/a>,\r\n<a href=\"#Surface-water-contamination\">\r\nsurface water contamination<\/a>\r\nthat might affect the\r\n<a href=\"#Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\">\r\nSatilla River<\/a>,\r\n<a href=\"#Well-testing-when\">\r\nwell testing, when, where, rainfall or not<\/a>,\r\nand\r\n<a href=\"#Wells-vs-city-water\">\r\nvs. city water<\/a>,\r\n<a href=\"#To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\">\r\nlandfills used to dispose of contaminated soil<\/a>,\r\nand many more.\r\nJoan M. Tibor had even\r\n<a href=\"#Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\">\r\nrented an instrument and done her own testing<\/a>,\r\nbut her results\r\n<a href=\"#Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\">\r\nwere pooh-poohed by EPA<\/a>.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nSure, it&#8217;s a hard problem, as I mentioned to GA-EPD\r\nafterwards, but as I mentioned to GA-EPD afterwards,\r\nthey&#8217;ve got a very willing public ready to help.\r\n<p>\r\nAt the front table, left to right:\r\nJame M. Perry of Georgia Department of Health,\r\nJim Brown of GA EPD,\r\n(unknown),\r\nMatthew J. Huyser of EPA.\r\nThey apparently gave slide presentations for the first hour.\r\nI arrived just after Q&amp;A had started.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nHere are links to the individual videos, followed by a video playlist.\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\">\r\na video playlist:<\/a>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Children-play-there-every\" href=\"#Children-play-there-every\">\r\nChildren play there every &#8211;Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Children play there every --Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=i4w7QeM-sGY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Children play there every --Joan M. Tibor to Jane M. Perry GA Health Dept.\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/i4w7QeM-sGY\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=i4w7QeM-sGY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=1\">Video.<\/a>\r\nJame M. Perry, Georgia Department of Health, said:\r\n<blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\n&#8230;exposure calculations &#8230; a child playing on a hot spot a certain\r\namount of hours every day for a certain number of years&#8230;\r\nand just the levels are so low that&#8230;.\r\n<\/P>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nJoan M. Tibor, an organizer of citizens&#8217; group <a href=\"http:\/\/silentdisaster.org\/\">SilentDisaster.org<\/a>, rebutted:\r\n<blockquote>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nYou&#8217;re saying a child plays there twice.\r\nWell there&#8217;s children in that neighborhood that play there every single day.\r\nNot only do they play there every single day, then they go home to their yards\r\nand they play in their own yards, that are like mine: they&#8217;re contaminated, also.\r\nAnd then they&#8217;re breathing some of that air,\r\nand then they&#8217;re drinking some of that water,\r\nthat we say benzene, pyrene won&#8217;t get down in our water system.\r\nWell if it&#8217;s not, can&#8217;t get in our water system, why is CSX \r\nand AGL\r\nreport it in the water.\r\nThere&#8217;s 24 hour exposure.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nThe moderator appealed for calm.\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nAnother citizen displayed a letter from Atlanta Gas in 2001\r\nsaying AGL had found contamination in an area near a now-closed\r\nAGL location.\r\nThe GA-EPD rep asserted that AGL had\r\n&#8220;removed the contamination\r\ndown to a concentration below the most strict safety level there is&#8221;.\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nSeveral other citizens spoke in this video, including\r\none woman who said her family had not had any health problems\r\nuntil they moved to Waycross, and:\r\n<\/p>\r\n<blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nThere are children all over sick.\r\nPeople told me when I first moved here, &#8220;don&#8217;t drink the water.&#8221;\r\nI thought they were crazy.\r\nBut then we moved here and my whole family&#8217;s been sick.\r\nThere&#8217;s something here and if you don&#8217;t want to find it you&#8217;re not\r\ngoing to find it.\r\n<p>\r\nBut if you want to find it y&#8217;all do your testing of the air, soil,\r\nand water of the schools and the neighborhoods\r\nand protecting the community because that&#8217;s what y&#8217;all are supposed to do.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Community-help-with-survey\" href=\"#Community-help-with-survey\">\r\nCommunity help with survey? &#8211;Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Community help with survey? --Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZCGBhk3R3VY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=2\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Community help with survey? --Jane M. Perry, GA Dept. Health\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ZCGBhk3R3VY\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZCGBhk3R3VY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=2\">Video.<\/a>\r\nMs. Perry said she&#8217;d like to conduct another study, but\r\n&#8220;that would require going in and doing another similar survey.&#8221;\r\nShe asked if the citizens thought that would be a good idea, and:\r\n<blockquote>\r\nIf we could get help from the community to distribute hundreds of surveys\r\nwhere we could get all the data we need, we could do that over a relatively\r\nshort period of time.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nApparently I didn&#8217;t get it on video, but citizens really liked\r\nthat idea and volunteered to help distribute the survey.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Surface-water-contamination\" href=\"#Surface-water-contamination\">\r\nSurface water contamination? &#8211;Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Surface water contamination? --Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9qgZGB0NIEU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=3\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Surface water contamination? --Ashby Nix, Satilla Riverkeeper\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9qgZGB0NIEU\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9qgZGB0NIEU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=3\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Instrument-calibration-procedures\" href=\"#Instrument-calibration-procedures\">\r\nInstrument calibration procedures?<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Instrument calibration procedures?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ai2fe23CizQ&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=4\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Instrument calibration procedures?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ai2fe23CizQ\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ai2fe23CizQ&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=4\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Cocktail-of-chemicals\" href=\"#Cocktail-of-chemicals\">\r\nCocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Cocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bVTAiFaa9As&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=5\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Cocktail of chemicals, sleeping, living, 24\/7\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/bVTAiFaa9As\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bVTAiFaa9As&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=5\">Video.<\/a>\r\nShe wanted to know what health effects were caused by combinations\r\nof chemicals.\r\nEPA&#8217;s Matthew J. Huyser said they tested for specific chemicals,\r\nand even with that they needed something to lead them back to a source\r\nto tie any health effects to any chemical.\r\nHe offered as part of EPA&#8217;s ongoing health consultation\r\nthey would try to gather more chemicals,\r\nbut it was almost impossible to go backwards from a health effect\r\nto a chemical cause.\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nShe had to ask her question several different ways,\r\nsuch as aspirin having ill effects in combination with certain other medications,\r\nbefore GA Health&#8217;s Jane M. Perry\r\nfinally got what she wanted to know, and came up with the\r\nbuzzword:\r\nsynergistic or additive effects.\r\nShe said nonetheless &#8220;we can&#8217;t; we don&#8217;t&#8221; and\r\nthey dealt with separate exposures and separate effects.\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\nGA EPD&#8217;s Jim Brown expounded that dosage or concentration also mattered,\r\nand pointed out that a low dosage of one chemical could affect\r\neffects of another.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Property-owner-next-to-Seven-Out-site\" href=\"#Property-owner-next-to-Seven-Out-site\">\r\nProperty owner next to Seven Out site<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Property owner next to Seven Out site\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dM40fQLpS-0&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=6\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Property owner next to Seven Out site\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/dM40fQLpS-0\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dM40fQLpS-0&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=6\">Video.<\/a>\r\nHe said he had had no illness, nor had anybody who worked for him there.\r\nBut in the next video&#8230;.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Private-cleanup-a-big-win\" href=\"#Private-cleanup-a-big-win\">\r\nPrivate cleanup a big win &#8211;Matthew J. Huyser, EPA<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Private cleanup a big win --Matthew J. Huyser, EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Vpfh_Z5Iwfs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=7\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Private cleanup a big win --Matthew J. Huyser, EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Vpfh_Z5Iwfs\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Vpfh_Z5Iwfs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=7\">Video.<\/a>\r\nThe nearest property owner said he couldn&#8217;t sell his property.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Not-everybody-affected-we-take-that-into-account\" href=\"#Not-everybody-affected-we-take-that-into-account\">\r\nNot everybody affected; we take that into account &#8211;Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Not everybody affected; we take that into account --Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U0C4nzLY3Xw&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=8\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Not everybody affected; we take that into account --Jane Perry, GA Dept. Health\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/U0C4nzLY3Xw\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U0C4nzLY3Xw&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=8\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Some-don-t-report-out-of-fear\" href=\"#Some-don-t-report-out-of-fear\">\r\nSome don&#8217;t report out of fear &#8211;Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Some don't report out of fear --Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rbVbK0i2buU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=9\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Some don't report out of fear --Joan M. Tibor SilentDisaster.org\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/rbVbK0i2buU\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rbVbK0i2buU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=9\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Did-you-test-the-CSX-property-at-the-canal\" href=\"#Did-you-test-the-CSX-property-at-the-canal\">\r\nDid you test the CSX property at the canal?<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Did you test the CSX property at the canal?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4dI-Dju9_II&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=10\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Did you test the CSX property at the canal?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/4dI-Dju9_II\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4dI-Dju9_II&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=10\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Well-testing-when\" href=\"#Well-testing-when\">\r\nWell testing: when, where, rain or not? &#8211;Neill Herring<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Well testing: when, where, rain or not? --Neill Herring\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9mK8VuKJthg&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=11\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Well testing: when, where, rain or not? --Neill Herring\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9mK8VuKJthg\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9mK8VuKJthg&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=11\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\" href=\"#Concerned-about-Satilla-River-CSX-surface-water-discharge-permit\">\r\nConcerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Concerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RvAVbk3OR-Q&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=12\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Concerned about Satilla River &#038; CSX surface water discharge permit\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/RvAVbk3OR-Q\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RvAVbk3OR-Q&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=12\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\" href=\"#To-what-landfill-did-uncovered-AGL-trucks-take-canal-dirt-in-2001\">\r\nTo what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: To what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Sw651HjsjTc&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=13\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"To what landfill did uncovered AGL trucks take canal dirt in 2001?\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Sw651HjsjTc\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Sw651HjsjTc&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=13\">Video.<\/a>\r\nWe know some of it went to\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/12\/u-s-epa-ga-dnr-ga-health-dept-and-landfill-in-lowndes-county-epa-2013-11-14.html\">\r\nthe Pecan Row Landfill in Lowndes County<\/a>.\r\nWWALS Watershed Coalition Ambassador Dave Hetzel stayed late to ask\r\nabout what other landfills, such as in Tift County.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Tank-farm-tested-twice-a-year\" href=\"#Tank-farm-tested-twice-a-year\">\r\nTank farm tested twice a year &#8211;Jim Brown GA-EPD<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Tank farm tested twice a year --Jim Brown GA-EPD\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eNeGagH-IO8&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=14\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Tank farm tested twice a year --Jim Brown GA-EPD\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/eNeGagH-IO8\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eNeGagH-IO8&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=14\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\" href=\"#Have-you-found-anybody-sick-from-these-chemicals-So-many-factors\">\r\nHave you found anybody sick from these chemicals? &#8220;So many factors&#8221; &#8211;EPA<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Have you found anybody sick from these chemicals? So many factors --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z-ADM7Yod9o&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=15\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Have you found anybody sick from these chemicals? So many factors --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/z-ADM7Yod9o\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z-ADM7Yod9o&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=15\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Wells-vs-city-water\" href=\"#Wells-vs-city-water\">\r\nWells vs. city water, which is &#8220;rigorously tested&#8221; &#8211;EPA<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Wells vs. city water, which is rigorously tested --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MDGRTuDL6GU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=16\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Wells vs. city water, which is rigorously tested --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/MDGRTuDL6GU\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MDGRTuDL6GU&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=16\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\" href=\"#Volatile-compound-testing-by-citizens\">\r\nVolatile compound testing by citizens &#8211;Joan M. Tibor<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Volatile compound testing by citizens --Joan M. Tibor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MPi-oUBcKVE&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=17\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Volatile compound testing by citizens --Joan M. Tibor\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/MPi-oUBcKVE\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MPi-oUBcKVE&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=17\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\" href=\"#Tested-water-from-three-wells-at-several-temperatures-1-different\">\r\nTested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different &#8211;Joan Tibor<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Tested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different --Joan Tibor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=n8_YGJa_Yio&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=18\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Tested water from three wells at several temperatures; 1 different --Joan Tibor\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/n8_YGJa_Yio\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=n8_YGJa_Yio&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=18\">Video.<\/a>\r\nEPA&#8217;s Matthew Huyser said he thought the instrument she was using\r\nwas barely good for qualitative tests, and not at all for quantitative tests.\r\nWhich seems like a strange reaction to me, considering she just said\r\nshe demonstrated one well&#8217;s water didn&#8217;t produce VOCs at any temperature.\r\nPlus if he doesn&#8217;t like the instrument she&#8217;s using, how about offering\r\nto supply a better one, or to have someone do such tests?\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCras-BX1QgMEUmxobuZThoA\/playlists\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ew94bOD6h5g\/mqdefault.jpg\"><\/a>\r\nShe said she had videos of those tests,\r\nand she has put them\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCras-BX1QgMEUmxobuZThoA\/playlists\">\r\non YouTube<\/a>\r\nwith\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/518314641632808\/?ref=4\">\r\ncontext on facebook<\/a>.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<li>\r\n<a name=\"Time-up-on-the-room-send-questions\" href=\"#Time-up-on-the-room-send-questions\">\r\nTime up on the room; send questions &#8211;EPA<\/a>\r\n<a title=\"video: Time up on the room; send questions --EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mw1xrqSDFGA&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=19\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" alt=\"Time up on the room; send questions --EPA\" src=\"http:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/mw1xrqSDFGA\/default.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<p style=\"font-style:normal\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mw1xrqSDFGA&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT&#038;index=19\">Video.<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>\r\nHere&#8217;s\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\">\r\nthe video playlist:<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\r\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/videoseries?list=PLshUv86fYkiFjsmq3MyhR1U-d5sQi34nT\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\r\n<br>\r\nChildren, cancer clusters, citizen water tests\r\n<br>\r\nSeven Out Superfund Assessment,\r\n<br>\r\nPublic Meeting, Georgia Environmental Protection Division (GA EPD),\r\n<br>\r\nVideo by John S. Quarterman for Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange (LAKE),\r\n<br>\r\nWaycross, Ware County, Georgia, 17 July 2014.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\n -jsq\r\n<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Citizens are not convinced EPA, GA-EPD, and GA Dept. of Health are doing enough to find what&#8217;s causing widespread sickness and death in Waycross, GA. 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