{"id":5733,"date":"2013-09-22T18:34:24","date_gmt":"2013-09-22T22:34:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=5733"},"modified":"2013-09-22T18:40:27","modified_gmt":"2013-09-22T22:40:27","slug":"vdt-starts-to-catch-up-about-pipeline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/vdt-starts-to-catch-up-about-pipeline.html","title":{"rendered":"VDT starts to catch up about pipeline"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/valdostadailytimes.com\/local\/x703120469\/Pipeline-intersects-area\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/d6673sr63mbv7.cloudfront.net\/archive\/x703120465\/g0a0000000000000000aee1dbae81dbbb9254109acd6139f5793126e4b2.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nSpectra used<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/walb-on-spectra-about-that-al-ga-fl-natural-gas-pipeline.html\"><br \/>\nDougherty County Commissioner Ewell Lyle&#8217;s question<\/a><br \/>\nin answer the Valdosta Daily Times about that natural gas pipeline<br \/>\nfrom Alabama to Florida.<br \/>\nAnd notice how they&#8217;re saying Tallapoosa County, Alabama now, and not<br \/>\nmentioning<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2013\/08\/99-of-u-s-pcbs-produced-by-monsanto-and-mon-knew-they-were-toxic.html\"><br \/>\nPCB-polluted Anniston, Alabama<\/a> as the source of the pipeline?<br \/>\nThe VDT map conveniently clips Alabama completely out of the picture.<br \/>\nHow about we clip Georgia out of the pipeline and install solar power instead?<\/p>\n<p>\nMatthew Woody wrote on the front page of the VDT today,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/valdostadailytimes.com\/local\/x703120469\/Pipeline-intersects-area\"><br \/>\nPipeline intersects area:<br \/>\nSabal Trail project runs from Alabama to Florida<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/pub\/andrea-grover\/18\/a8a\/135\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" src=\"http:\/\/m.c.lnkd.licdn.com\/mpr\/mpr\/shrink_200_200\/p\/1\/000\/19f\/3aa\/21c9b94.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nAndrea Grover, Public Affairs Representative from Spectra Energy,<br \/>\nsaid that initially the pipe was going to be a closed system, but<br \/>\nSpectra Energy decided to turn the pipe into an &ldquo;open access<br \/>\npipe,&rdquo; meaning that any area along the pipe could potentially<br \/>\ntap into the system to either receive gas from or supply gas to the<br \/>\npipeline. Describing the pipeline as a highway, Grover said it will<br \/>\nhave on-ramps and off-ramps. They provide the transportation of the<br \/>\ngas, and once the pipe is in service, communities are encouraged to<br \/>\nwork with Sabal.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nDougherty County Commissioner Ewell Lyle<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/walb-on-spectra-about-that-al-ga-fl-natural-gas-pipeline.html\"><br \/>\nsuggested letting locals tap it<\/a><br \/>\nless than a week ago.<\/p>\n<p>\nNote that weasel word: &#8220;potentially&#8221;.<br \/>\nI could &#8220;potentially&#8221; tap into the two (2) pipelines that<br \/>\ncross my property, but decades they&#8217;ve been there and that&#8217;s never happened.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nWhen asked about the benefits of the pipe, Grover stated,<!--more--> &ldquo;The<br \/>\neconomic benefits are critical.&rdquo;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe company will pay taxes, provide both permanent and temporary<br \/>\njobs, and natural gas to the cities it travels through (if the<br \/>\ncities choose to tap into the pipeline).\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nSo is it the cities&#8217; choice or the pipeline company&#8217;s choice?<br \/>\nAnd so much for anybody smaller than that along the route tapping into it.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/maps.google.com\/maps?saddr=3486+Skipper+Bridge+Rd,+Valdosta,+GA&#038;daddr=Creekhouse+Dr%2FSkipper+Bridge+Rd+to:GA-376+W%2FClyattville+Lake+Park+Rd+to:Grassy+Pond+Road,+Lake+Park,+GA+to:5522+Madison+Highway,+Valdosta,+GA&#038;hl=en&#038;ll=30.739475,-83.247528&#038;spn=0.632662,0.85144&#038;sll=30.678373,-83.264351&#038;sspn=0.07869,0.10643&#038;geocode=Fbzi1wEdSIsJ-yn3IfIXGGjuiDHLbou4CQZoxw%3BFbO31wEdEIIJ-w%3BFRos1AEdLeAJ-w%3BFY3M0wEdwd8J-ynDSF3yxfTuiDERa9jH7X0v7Q%3BFVww1AEdA7EI-ykpHU_CyovuiDGJooWsS5jC4A&#038;t=h&#038;dirflg=b&#038;mra=dme&#038;mrsp=2&#038;sz=13&#038;lci=bike&#038;z=10\" title=\"Pipeline points with streets\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/farm6.staticflickr.com\/5495\/9443033905_75be4c475b.jpg\" alt=\"Pipeline points with streets\"><\/a><br \/>\nThe VDT noticed the<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/path-of-proposed-pipeline-through-lowndes-county.html\">Option B LAKE already documented on 5 August<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nThe pipe&#8217;s route has an &ldquo;Option A&rdquo; and an &ldquo;Option<br \/>\nB.&rdquo; Option A is shifted more west which minimizes the impact<br \/>\non the residents of Lowndes County. Option B would bypass Brooks<br \/>\nCounty, but split Lowndes straight down the middle. To minimize the<br \/>\nimpact of the pipe, most of the pipe will be buried at a minimum of<br \/>\nthree feet.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nOnly three feet?<br \/>\nThe two pipelines through my property are at four feet.<br \/>\nYet they still take up a forty foot right of way, and this proposed<br \/>\npipeline RoW would be even wider.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nLandowners will be able to resume normal activity on their property,<br \/>\nexcept no permanent structures can be built over the pipeline<br \/>\nbecause they would impede with the maintenance of the pipe. If the<br \/>\nland above the pipe was used for agricultural use, then that land<br \/>\nwill still be able to be used in that manner.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nWell, I guess growing trees is not agriculture, because you sure can&#8217;t<br \/>\ngrow trees on a pipeline right of way.<br \/>\nAnd the RoW provides a path for trespassers, so you&#8217;ll end up building<br \/>\nfences, at your expense.<\/p>\n<p>\nMeanwhile in Dougherty County, there&#8217;s already been a public hearing,<br \/>\nbut around here we get this promise:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nGrover also said that Spectra Energy has been in contact with people<br \/>\nalong the proposed route since June, and will begin to hold meetings<br \/>\nin the affected communities beginning in October.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nAfter<br \/>\ntwo weeks of<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/pipeline-opposition-growing.html\"><br \/>\ncitizen concerns<\/a><br \/>\nheard by<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/pipeline-concerns-about-flint-river-and-floridan-aquifer-heard-by-dougherty-county-commission.html\"><br \/>\nthe Dougherty County Commission<\/a><br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/spectra-speaks-about-that-al-ga-fl-natural-gas-pipeline.html\"><br \/>\na public hearing<\/a><br \/>\nwith<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/walb-on-spectra-about-that-al-ga-fl-natural-gas-pipeline.html\"><br \/>\nmore scheduled<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhat has the Lowndes County Commission done?<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nSabal Trail has already been in contact with Lowndes County<br \/>\ngovernment as well, said Grover. Speaking with Page Dukes, Lowndes<br \/>\nCounty Clerk, Dukes said that the county is being treated like any<br \/>\nother land owner along the route. The county will not have an<br \/>\nopportunity to approve or deny the passage of the pipeline through<br \/>\nLowndes County. Also, when asked if Lowndes County has considered<br \/>\ntapping into the pipeline, Dukes said, &ldquo;That offer has not<br \/>\nbeen made to the county.&rdquo;\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThe county does have an opportunity to hold public hearings and<br \/>\nfor Commissioners to express opinions, which Spectra has demonstrated<br \/>\nit does listen to.<br \/>\nInstead, the Lowndes County government<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/lowndes-county-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-pipeline-bill-slaughter-lcc-2013-06-25.html\"><br \/>\ntakes no responsibility<\/a><br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/sabal-trail-natural-gas-pipeline-letters-to-lowndes-county.html\"><br \/>\nwrite no letters<\/a> that we&#8217;ve seen.<br \/>\nNo Lowndes County Commissioners are even quoted in the VDT story;<br \/>\njust the County Clerk repeating what the County Chairman said more than<br \/>\na month ago.<\/p>\n<p>\nMeanwhile, watch out:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\nIf your property is chosen by Spectra Energy for the pipeline, your<br \/>\nproperty will be appraised by an independent real estate appraiser<br \/>\nprovided by Spectra Energy, and &ldquo;based upon the appraiser&#8217;s<br \/>\nmarket evaluation as well as other factors, Spectra Energy<br \/>\ndetermines the fair market value to be used for negotiations,&rdquo;<br \/>\nsaid Grover.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSpectra Energy goes into every easement negotiation expecting that<br \/>\nan agreement will be reached. However, in the event that an<br \/>\nagreement cannot be reached, they can obtain the rights to easement<br \/>\nby eminent domain through the Federal Natural Gas Act. Eminent<br \/>\ndomain will not be used as a negotiating tool, but &ldquo;only as a<br \/>\nmeans of last resort,&rdquo; she said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIf eminent domain is used, then the court will &ldquo;determine the<br \/>\nappropriate compensation in the valuation proceeding.&rdquo; Then<br \/>\nthe landowner would be able to present to the court the compensation<br \/>\nthey deem appropriate for the land.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nI can tell you by experience that&#8217;s not the whole story.<\/p>\n<p>\nMeanwhile, it&#8217;s time to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/spectra-speaks-about-that-al-ga-fl-natural-gas-pipeline.html\"><br \/>\nstart contacting FERC and GA PSC<\/a> about this $3 billion<br \/>\nboondoggle of no benefit to Georgians.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n -jsq<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Spectra used Dougherty County Commissioner Ewell Lyle&#8217;s question in answer the Valdosta Daily Times about that natural gas pipeline from Alabama to Florida. And notice how they&#8217;re saying Tallapoosa County, Alabama now, and not mentioning PCB-polluted Anniston, Alabama as the source of the pipeline? The VDT map conveniently clips Alabama completely out of the picture. 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