{"id":5199,"date":"2013-08-17T13:07:11","date_gmt":"2013-08-17T17:07:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=5199"},"modified":"2013-08-17T14:41:03","modified_gmt":"2013-08-17T18:41:03","slug":"geotechnical-conditions-and-maybe-sinkholes-michael-noll-lcc-2013-08-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/geotechnical-conditions-and-maybe-sinkholes-michael-noll-lcc-2013-08-13.html","title":{"rendered":"Geotechnical conditions and maybe sinkholes &#8211;Michael Noll @ LCC 2013-08-13"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=A9f80xyCqIs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiEEUH7OBoHbo1a66CqoYkHx&#038;index=9\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/i1.ytimg.com\/vi\/A9f80xyCqIs\/default.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nA VSU professor<br \/>\nsaid he was in favor of the economic benefits,<br \/>\nbut geotechnical issues should determine whether<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/sinkholes-at-proposed-moody-family-housing-jason-davenport-lcc-2013-08-13.html\"><br \/>\nthe new Moody Housing on Val Del Road<br \/>\n(REZ-2013-09)<\/a><br \/>\nshould be built, and those were still unclear,<br \/>\nat<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/videos-moody-moody-acre-water-and-splost-vii-lcc-2013-08-13.html\"><br \/>\nthe 13 August 2013 Lowndes County Commission Regular Session<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\nDr. Michael Noll of VSU<br \/>\nsaid he was speaking because he had been referred to by previous speakers<br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/sinkholes-at-proposed-moody-family-housing-jason-davenport-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">Jason Davenport<\/a><br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/phase-ii-of-moody-family-housing-already-has-a-sinkhole-tom-kurrie-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">Tom Kurrie<\/a>), and he was neither for nor against<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/trc-and-glpc-recommended-subdivision-that-doesnt-improve-traffic-or-safety-rez-2013-09.html\">REZ-2013-09<\/a>.<br \/>\nDr. Noll&#8217;s neither-in-favor-nor-against position seemed to puzzle<br \/>\nCounty Engineer Mike Fletcher.<br \/>\nNoll said he and his colleagues had looked at<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/usaf-environmental-assessment-about-val-del-road-moody-housing-parcel-2.html\"><br \/>\nthe Environmental Assessment (EA)<br \/>\nwhich has been available at the public library<\/a><br \/>\nand concluded that they had a number of questions they&#8217;d like answered,<br \/>\nand he was sure the developers had similar concerns for safety of the project.<\/p>\n<p>\nDr. Noll<br \/>\nsaid they&#8217;d been trying to get a copy of the geotechnical analysis<!--more--> mentioned<br \/>\non page 4-13 of the EA.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.esi.utexas.edu\/outreach\/caves\/karst.php\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.esi.utexas.edu\/outreach\/caves\/images\/karst\/karst_fig1.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nEspecially he was concerned about<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.esi.utexas.edu\/outreach\/caves\/karst.php\"><br \/>\nkarst<\/a> formations which may or may not<br \/>\nexist in the area.<br \/>\nHe wondered why there were problems in getting that report.<br \/>\nHe said the phone number was listed incorrectly,<br \/>\nbut through Moody AFB he got the right number and had spoken<br \/>\nto Mr. Richmond who was listed on the VDT announcement of the EA.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nDr. Noll said a private entity such as Balfour Beatty was not subject<br \/>\nto Georgia Open Records Requests.<br \/>\n(However, if Lowndes County has a copy of either of these reports,<br \/>\nthe county is subject to such requests.)\n<\/p>\n<p>\nDr. Noll said (very politely) that<br \/>\nthe new base commander asked Dr. Noll and colleagues<br \/>\nto come with him to look at the site, but even Moody hadn&#8217;t been<br \/>\ngiven permission to visit the site.<br \/>\nNoll said he and his colleagues would like to examine the site<br \/>\nand that wouldn&#8217;t take very long.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a title=\"Sinkholes there there and there\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/7894357494\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b0176178540f7970c\" src=\"http:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8180\/7894357494_937c3f8b8a_m.jpg\"\nalt=\"Sinkholes there there and there\"  \/><\/a><br \/>\nHere&#8217;s some of their previous work,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2012\/08\/sinkholes-towards-the-house.html\"><br \/>\non the sinkhole under Michael McCormick&#8217;s garage<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhich the county still has done nothing about, as far as I know.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nCommissioner Richard Raines wanted to know whether Dr. Noll<br \/>\nwas just concerned, or was he offering his services, or both.<br \/>\nDr. Noll said he was generally speaking concerned because of what<br \/>\nhe saw in the EA, which indicated there had been some sampling,<br \/>\nbut not enough to determine whether the foundations were sound.<br \/>\n&#8220;We don&#8217;t know.&#8221;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nHere&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=A9f80xyCqIs&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiEEUH7OBoHbo1a66CqoYkHx&#038;index=9\"><br \/>\nthe video:<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/A9f80xyCqIs\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\n<br \/>\nGeotechnical conditions and maybe sinkholes &#8211;Michael Noll<br \/>\n<br \/>\nRegular Session, Lowndes County Commission (LCC),<br \/>\n<br \/>\nVideo by Gretchen Quarterman for Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange (LAKE),<br \/>\n<br \/>\nValdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 13 August 2013.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n -jsq<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A VSU professor said he was in favor of the economic benefits, but geotechnical issues should determine whether the new Moody Housing on Val Del Road (REZ-2013-09) should be built, and those were still unclear, at the 13 August 2013 Lowndes County Commission Regular Session. 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