{"id":5190,"date":"2013-08-16T18:17:38","date_gmt":"2013-08-16T22:17:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=5190"},"modified":"2013-08-16T18:22:54","modified_gmt":"2013-08-16T22:22:54","slug":"phase-ii-of-moody-family-housing-already-has-a-sinkhole-tom-kurrie-lcc-2013-08-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/phase-ii-of-moody-family-housing-already-has-a-sinkhole-tom-kurrie-lcc-2013-08-13.html","title":{"rendered":"Phase II of Moody Family Housing already has a sinkhole &#8211;Tom Kurrie @ LCC 2013-08-13"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\r\nTom Kurrie said Phase I has a structural issue and Phase II of\r\nthe proposed Moody Housing has a sinkhole,\r\nat\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/videos-moody-moody-acre-water-and-splost-vii-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">\r\nthe 13 August 2013 Lowndes County Commission Regular Session<\/a>.\r\n\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/9527187802\/sizes\/z\/\" title=\"Existing Sinkhole in Phase II of REZ-2013-09\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7341\/9527187802_23f4c9bf3d_n.jpg\" alt=\"Existing Sinkhole in Phase II of REZ-2013-09\"><\/a>\r\n<a name=\"Kurrie\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RIyCeOEFFpY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiEEUH7OBoHbo1a66CqoYkHx\">\r\nTom Kurrie spoke for<\/a>\r\nthe rezoning for Phase I,\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/sinkholes-at-proposed-moody-family-housing-jason-davenport-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">\r\nREZ-2013-09<\/a>,\r\nfirst giving something unknown to the County Clerk,\r\nand then saying:\r\n<blockquote>\r\nBill Holland and I are the applicants,\r\nwe represent the owner of the property, the Howard Dasher Company,\r\nas well as the developers of the property, Balfour Beatty Communities.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nThe ubiquitous Bill Holland had spoken the previous morning\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/rez-2013-09-moody-housing-val-del-rd-lcc-2013-08-12.html#REZ-2013-09\">\r\nin the Work Session<\/a>.\r\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/9524402231\/sizes\/z\/\" title=\"Tom Kurrie\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7324\/9524402231_7bb6fb09a3_z.jpg\" alt=\"Tom Kurrie\"><\/a>\r\n<p>\r\nThis time, Kurrie\r\nsaid the project had been in the makings for over two years.\r\n(Funny how the county didn&#8217;t tell us about it until they were ready\r\nto rush it through.)\r\nHe said it was for &#8220;prestige housing&#8221; for base personnel.\r\nHe said it was unusual in being 8 miles west of Moody AFB.\r\nHe introduced Ron Nestor, Senior Vice President of Balfour Beatty,\r\nand said it was a public-private partnership.\r\nAnd use would be restricted to Air Force personnel.\r\nWe&#8217;d already heard about such restrictions at\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/no-mold-n-unpaid-contractors-this-time-for-moody-housing-glpc-2013-07-29.html\">\r\nthe Planning Commission<\/a>.\r\nHe said it would be a &#8220;gated community&#8221;.\r\nWe&#8217;ll see if that actually happens this time, unlike at\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/nelson-hill-waivers-by-staff-2-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">Nelson Hill<\/a> just up Val Del Road;\r\nyou can see both locations on this map:\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"text-align:center\">\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/govt\/loco\/rezoning\/REZ-2013-09\/mime\/REZ201309F.html\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;width:500px\" src=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/govt\/loco\/rezoning\/REZ-2013-09\/mime\/REZ201309F.jpg\"><\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\n\r\nKurrie also mentioned professor Noll and geotechnical issues such\r\nas sinkholes,<!--more--> now or future.\r\nKurrie admitted Phase II (not the one they&#8217;re applying for now)\r\ndoes have a sinkhole.\r\n(The\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/govt\/loco\/rezoning\/REZ-2013-09\/mime\/MoodyXAFBXValXDelXRoadXSiteXXXPlan.html\">\r\nsite plan<\/a> does say that right on it: &#8220;Existing Sinkhole&#8221;,\r\nand you can see it in\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/qpublic7.qpublic.net\/qpmap4\/map.php?county=ga_lowndes&#038;parcel=0072++191&#038;extent=2553466+321606+2566682+345410&#038;layers=parcels+streetnum+roads+parcel_sales\">\r\nthe county Tax Assessors map<\/a>.)\r\nHe said the developer had identified an environmental issue in part\r\nof the land for Phase I and no houses would be built on that.\r\n<p>\r\nHe added that the Air Force had done a draft Environmental Assessment\r\nof 176 pages and &#8220;your planner has a copy of that.&#8221;\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/9524402681\/sizes\/z\/\" title=\"Sinkhole on Tax Commissioner map\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7403\/9524402681_3d9ae72d85_n.jpg\" alt=\"Sinkhole on Tax Commissioner map\"><\/a>\r\nHe added,\r\n<blockquote>\r\nThere was no significant impact, and a finding of no practical alternative.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\nWhy not?\r\nBecause:\r\n<blockquote>\r\nThis is the site that has been approved by the Air Force, and no other site\r\nhas been approved for this purpose whatsoever.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\nSo why did the Air Force\r\nbother doing an EA if the result had already been pre-determined\r\nby the Air Force?\r\nThe public comment period for the EA didn&#8217;t even expire until 15 August 2013,\r\nbut as you&#8217;ll see the County Commission went ahead and voted on 13 August anyway.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\nKurrie wrapped up after less than seven minutes,\r\ngetting to the real point: there&#8217;s probably going to be a BRAC,\r\nand this is a way for the county to show support for Moody.\r\nCurious how citizens wishing to be heard have to stick to 5 minutes\r\nbut developers or their attorneys can go on indefinitely.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\n<a name=\"Page\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/9527187314\/sizes\/m\/\" title=\"John Page\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" src=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7423\/9527187314_a497e23fa1_n.jpg\" alt=\"John Page\"><\/a>\r\nCommissioner John Page wanted to know what would happen if Moody closed,\r\nwould locals then be able to use this housing?\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-style: normal\">\r\nKurrie said Scott Rafshoon was present to represent the developer.\r\nKurrie added that this project would be owned by the Air Force\r\nafter 50 years.\r\nSee <a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/sinkholes-at-proposed-moody-family-housing-scott-rafshoon-lcc-2013-08-13.html\">next post<\/a>\r\nfor Rafshoon&#8217;s answer.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nHere&#8217;s\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RIyCeOEFFpY&#038;list=PLshUv86fYkiEEUH7OBoHbo1a66CqoYkHx&#038;index=6\">\r\nthe video:<\/a>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\r\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RIyCeOEFFpY\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\r\n<br>\r\nPhase II of Moody Family Housing already has a sinkhole &#8211;Tom Kurrie\r\n<br>\r\nRegular Session, Lowndes County Commission (LCC),\r\n<br>\r\nVideo by Gretchen Quarterman for Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange (LAKE), Valdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 13 August 2013.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\n -jsq\r\n<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tom Kurrie said Phase I has a structural issue and 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