{"id":2541,"date":"2011-01-02T08:58:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-02T13:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/01\/no-way-shape-or-form-brad-lofton-on-dr-teaf.html"},"modified":"2011-01-02T08:58:00","modified_gmt":"2011-01-02T13:58:00","slug":"no-way-shape-or-form-brad-lofton-on-dr-teaf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/01\/no-way-shape-or-form-brad-lofton-on-dr-teaf.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;no way shape or form&#8221; &#8211;Brad Lofton on Dr. Teaf"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5314221984\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5004\/5314221984_bc9dae7c9a_m.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nA week after Brad Lofton failed to produce evidence and offered<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/01\/we-will-make-sure-they-get-in-the-appropriate-file-brad-lofton.html\"><br \/>\nto file Dr. Noll&#8217;s correspondence &#8220;in the appropriate file&#8221;<\/a>,<br \/>\nVLCIA has still not published the videos or slides from their<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2010\/12\/vlcia-biomass-event-qa.html\">6 Dec 2010 event at the Rainwater Conference Center.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nHowever, Brad Lofton and Col. Ricketts summarized that event for<br \/>\nthe VLCIA board at their recent board meeting,<br \/>\nand they never presented any actual evidence there, either.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=XX52Rcr-Px4\"><br \/>\nBrad Lofton said his toxicologist says the biomass plant in<br \/>\n&#8220;no way shape or form&#8221; will cause health problems.<\/a><br \/>\nThen he rattled off a long list of supporters of a Gainesville biomass plant.<br \/>\nThe rest of this post has videos of what he and Col. Ricketts said, plus screenshots<br \/>\nof each of Dr. Teaf&#8217;s slides: see if you can find the details.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>\n<object width=\"640\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/XX52Rcr-Px4?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/XX52Rcr-Px4?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"640\" height=\"385\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>\nLofton enumerated the speakers at the 6 Dec 2010 event.<br \/>\nCan someone try to transcribe that list?<br \/>\nNone was given out at the 6 Dec event, and if it&#8217;s on the VLCIA web site,<br \/>\nI can&#8217;t find it.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5285501713\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5046\/5285501713_c6afc09c22_m.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nThen<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fd65aQZfBsc\"><br \/>\nCol. Ricketts used<\/a> what were apparently Dr. Christopher M. Teaf&#8217;s<br \/>\nslides from the Rainwater event.<\/p>\n<p>\n<object width=\"640\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/fd65aQZfBsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/fd65aQZfBsc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"640\" height=\"385\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>\nThe slide on<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306843296\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n&#8220;Basic Issues&#8221;<\/a> gives the flavor right off:<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306843296\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5165\/5306843296_ee78148986.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nWhat people had an image of a biomass facility as a &#8220;smoky fire pit&#8221;?<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s VLCIA and Wiregrass LLC that keep talking about visible emissions;<br \/>\nwhat everybody else is talking about is health effects,<br \/>\nparticulates, and odor.<\/p>\n<p>\nBullet number two tells us how to think:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nFacility must be judged on engineering, emissions\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As a pine tree farmer, I&#8217;m also interested in fuel sources<br \/>\nand forest health, thank you very much.<br \/>\nLike many other people, I&#8217;m also interested in human health.<br \/>\nNot to mention economic risks and the cost in credibility<br \/>\nof the VLCIA.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306249515\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\nNext slide:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306249515\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\nFuel Availability<\/a>.<br \/>\nHm, unless fuel is emissions, Dr. Teaf contradicts himself already,<br \/>\nor we aren&#8217;t supposed to use this slide to judge.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m still waiting for<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2010\/12\/wheres-the-wood-to-come-from-and-who-will-buy-the-electricity.html\"><br \/>\nthe redacted fuel study from Sterling.<\/a><br \/>\nIf I don&#8217;t get it soon, I will go ahead and post a critique of what was<br \/>\npresented at Rainwater about that.<\/p>\n<p>\nMeanwhile,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OdmwKR7pvv8\"><br \/>\nVLCIA board chair Jerry Jennett just discovered through<br \/>\nsome other source that there&#8217;s a wood pellet plant<br \/>\ngoing in in Waycross<\/a>,<br \/>\nso it&#8217;s a little hard to believe this fuel sourcing study was<br \/>\nvery thorough.<br \/>\nNeither Lofton nor Ricketts mentioned that Waycross plant<br \/>\nas being taken into account in the fuel sourcing study.<\/p>\n<p>\nRegarding emissions controls, Col. Ricketts says<br \/>\n&#8220;I won&#8217;t go into all that detail&#8221;<br \/>\nand claims the details are in the air quality permit.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s pretty much his (and Dr. Teaf&#8217;s) approach throughout:<br \/>\npresent no details, and cite no publicly available studies<br \/>\nor scientific literature.<br \/>\nDr. Teaf&#8217;s slide on<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306842210\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\">Mercury<\/a> mentions unspecified criteria.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306842210\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5205\/5306842210_49da776b78.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nDr. Teaf&#8217;s slide on<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251253\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\">Particulate Matter (PM)<\/a><br \/>\nrefers to unspecified standards,<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251253\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5207\/5306251253_7cd6e8b9ff.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nand makes the dubious and unsupported claim<br \/>\n&#8220;Valdosta\/Lowndes air quality good&#8221;.<br \/>\nIt mentions &#8220;open burning <em>(e.g., field fires, forest fires)<\/em><br \/>\n(his italics), while saying nothing about prescribed burning,<br \/>\nsuch as<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2010\/06\/the-art-of-managing-longleaf.html\"><br \/>\nis necessary to maintain health of pine forests.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nIts claim that burning in an incinerator wood<br \/>\n&#8220;of equivalent mass show substantial <u>reductions<\/u><br \/>\nby controlled burning within facility&#8221;<br \/>\n(his underlining)<br \/>\nis misleading at best, since during thinning most tops and limbs<br \/>\nare not burnt up, they are left to rot and become nutrients.<br \/>\nPrescribed burns are also not all concentrated in a single point source of emissions.<\/p>\n<p>\nCol. Ricketts took a break due to arrival of half a dozen new audience<br \/>\nmembers, and then continued<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EHbCBn5gR8k\"><br \/>\nsummarizing Dr. Teaf&#8217;s summary.<\/a><br \/>\nDr. Teaf&#8217;s slide on<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251519\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\nDioxins<\/a> repeats the highly dubious point about field burning<br \/>\nthat doesn&#8217;t even mention prescribed burns.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251519\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5170\/5306251519_54b109521c.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nCol. Ricketts mentioned EPA and CDC about<br \/>\n&#8220;where we are moving, the direction we are moving&#8221;<br \/>\napparently saying that since dioxins have been reduced in recent years<br \/>\nit&#8217;s OK for us to emit them.<br \/>\nI know some Agent Orange sufferers who would not agree.<\/p>\n<p>\nOn to<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251593\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\nPolycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs)<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306251593\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5047\/5306251593_1a369d502d.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nThe slide refers to scientific data with no citations.<br \/>\nWhere is this data?  Citations, or it doesn&#8217;t exist!<br \/>\nCol. Ricketts refers to &#8220;breathing roadside air&#8221;<br \/>\nas being more dangerous, with no mention of<br \/>\nthe delivery trucks coming into the facility.<\/p>\n<p>\nFinally, Col. Ricketts presents a slide from Dr. Teaf on<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306843182\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\nClosing Thoughts.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/5306843182\/in\/set-72157625581424249\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5009\/5306843182_8dd3fedd93.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nCol. Ricketts touts the incinerator&#8217;s multiple overlapping controls.<br \/>\nSure, and so did<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5009\/5306843182_8dd3fedd93.jpg\"><br \/>\nthe Harrisburg incinerator<\/a> that&#8217;s been shut down twice<br \/>\nand is now bankrupting Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.<\/p>\n<p>\nThen Col. Ricketts claims VLCIA has<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8220;made this presentation available to anyone in the community who asks for it&#8221;.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, I keep asking for it to be put on the VLCIA web site<br \/>\nso anybody who wants to can see it.<br \/>\nDoes &#8220;made available&#8221; mean you can come to a board meeting with a video<br \/>\ncamera and upload it to YouTube yourself, as LAKE did?<br \/>\nWhy is it that a professional entity funded by 1 mil of dedicated taxes<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t seem to manage that, while a tiny volunteer group can?<br \/>\nWhat does that say about VLCIA&#8217;s ability to manage money?<\/p>\n<p>\nEarlier in the presentation, Col. Ricketts repeatedly says &#8220;we&#8221;<br \/>\nreferring to VLCIA and Wiregrass Power, LLC: &#8220;we&#8221; approached Dr. Teaf,<br \/>\n&#8220;we&#8221; commissioned studies, etc.<br \/>\nOK, so tax money at least partly funded these studies.<br \/>\nLet&#8217;s see them!<br \/>\nNot just overview slides, either: the actual studies, with the actual data.<\/p>\n<p>\n-jsq<\/p>\n<p>\nPS: The rest of what Col. Ricketts and Brad Lofton said about biomass<br \/>\nat the VLCIA board meeting will follow in another post.<\/p>\n<p>\nPPS: To anyone who thinks it&#8217;s unfair for me to present these<br \/>\nslides and videos with my commentary, remember I&#8217;ve been asking<br \/>\nfor quite a while now (for example I asked Brad Lofton in person<br \/>\nafter the event on 6 Dec 2010, and I asked Col. Ricketts<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/farm6.static.flickr.com\/5009\/5306843182_8dd3fedd93.jpg\">on 23 Dec 2010<\/a>)<br \/>\nfor the VLCIA to publish their own version themselves.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m still asking for that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A week after Brad Lofton failed to produce evidence and offered to file Dr. Noll&#8217;s correspondence &#8220;in the appropriate file&#8221;, VLCIA has still not published the videos or slides from their 6 Dec 2010 event at the Rainwater Conference Center. However, Brad Lofton and Col. 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