{"id":2535,"date":"2011-01-03T05:44:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-03T10:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/01\/in-other-words-you-do-not-have-any-proof-noll-to-lofton.html"},"modified":"2011-01-03T05:44:00","modified_gmt":"2011-01-03T10:44:00","slug":"in-other-words-you-do-not-have-any-proof-noll-to-lofton","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/01\/in-other-words-you-do-not-have-any-proof-noll-to-lofton.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;In other words, you do not have any proof!&#8221; &#8211;Noll to Lofton"},"content":{"rendered":"Continuing\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/01\/folks-come-into-the-community-col-ricketts-responding-to-wace-in-vlcia-board-meeting.html\">\nthe Noll-Lofton email exchange<\/a>: eight messages in this post. -jsq\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Michael G. Noll\n<br>\nDate: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:42:44 +0000\n<p>\nMr. Lofton.\n<p>\nLet&#8217;s remain focused on the health risks associated with your biomass\nproject, the most important issue for our community. (WACE will deal\nwith other claims you make, yet can&#8217;t back up with scientific studies,\non January 13.)\n<p>\nThe only thing the public has received in regard to your claim that\nbiomass is safe are your &#8220;assurances&#8221; and the testimony by a hired gun,\nwho is not even a medical professional, and who also could not back up\nhis claim. No scientific studies. No statements by medical\norganizations. No links to scholarly publications. Nothing.\n<p>\nAt the same time,\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<!--more-->\n<blockquote> WACE has shared with you and the community plenty of\nscientific studies and statements by medical organizations to establish\nthe simple fact that biomass indeed bears significant health risks\n(because it is neither &#8220;clean&#8221; nor &#8220;green&#8221;). In other words, the\ncommunity did not just receive &#8220;assurances&#8221; or an &#8220;opinion&#8221; from WACE,\nbut scientific facts as established by the ALA, ACS, AHA and many other\nentities.\n<p>\nNow, simply admit that you do not have scientific studies or statements\nby medical organizations that support your claim that biomass is\n&#8220;safe&#8221;, or finally attach some of recent date to your next email to\ngive us your proof.\n<p>\nIf you can&#8217;t, which seems to be the case, it is simply time to stop\nyour biomass project and focus our efforts on creating truly clean jobs\nand smart economic growth for our community.\n<p>\nBest regards, Michael G. Noll.\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Brad Lofton\n<br>\nTue, 28 Dec 2010 18:51:50 -0500\n<p>\nDr. Noll,\n<p>\nI thought my previous e-mails were pretty clear. We will be happy to\ndiscuss this with you further in person. Please feel free to contact\n259-9972 to schedule an appointment.\n<p>\nThanks,\n<br>\nBL\nSent from my Verizon Wireless Phone\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Michael G. Noll\n<br>\nDate:    Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:54:30 +0000\n<p>\nMr. Lofton.\n<p>\nIn other words, you do not have any proof!\n<p>\nQ.E.D.\n<p>\nMGN\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Brad Lofton\n<br>\nDate:    Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:07:36 -0500\n<p>\n259-9972 sir\n<p>\nSent from my Verizon Wireless Phone\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Michael G. Noll\n<br>\nDate:    Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:58:38 +0000\n<p>\nMr. Lofton.\n<p>\nThe dictionary defines the word *proof* as: &#8220;any factual evidence that\nhelps to establish the truth of something&#8221; &#8230; and in your case your\nclaim that biomass is &#8220;safe&#8221;.\n<p>\nIn other words, if you have any proof for what you say, now is the time\nto produce it, and for EVERYONE to see.\n<p>\nPlease attach any scientific proof you may have to an email and share\nit with the group.\n<p>\nMGN\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Brad Lofton\n<br>\nDate:    Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:06:58 -0500\n<p>\nDr. Noll,\n<p>\nFor the third time now, you are welcome to sit down with us in person\nand we will go through all of our proof with you. Despite your frequent\nappearances before the City and County, and though you claim to be an\nexpert, you have not attended a single meeting of my board in three\nyears nor have you sat down to discuss this project with our staff.\nI&#8217;m not sure what you are afraid of. Our number us 259-9972.  I will\nnot debate you over e-mail.\n<p>\nHave a nice night sir.\n<p>\nBL\n<p>\nSent from my Verizon Wireless Phone\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Michael G. Noll\n<br>\nDate:    Wed, 29 Dec 2010 02:37:18 +0000\n<p>\nMr. Lofton.\n<p>\nWhat part of *proof* do you not understand?\n<p>\nEither you have it, and share it with the group via email as a *.pdf or\n*.doc file &#8230; or you don&#8217;t (which apparently is the case) and you\nsimply admit to it.\n<p>\nMembers of WACE (including my wife) have communicated with you for\nmonths via email; members of WACE (including Natasha Fast) have already\nmet with you months ago; members of WACE (including myself) came to\nyour panel on December 6, etc., etc., etc.\n<p>\nWhat would be the point of another meeting, another email, another\nphone call &#8230; if none in the past have produced any scientific proof,\nany conclusive evidence that biomass is safe?\n<p>\nPerhaps you are afraid of the simple truth that biomass is NOT safe?\n<p>\nBest regards, Michael G. Noll.\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\nFrom: Brad Lofton\n<br>\nDate:    Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:08:36 -0500\n<p>\nDr. Noll-\n<p>\nThis will be my last e-mail to you. I will be pleased to sit down with\nyou at your convenience to discuss the project in detail and provide\nthe information you desire.  Seems like a pretty fair offer to me.\n<p>\nThanks,\n<br>\nBL\n<p>\nSent from my Verizon Wireless Phone\n<\/blockquote>\nAll these messages copied the same people as in\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/01\/folks-come-into-the-community-col-ricketts-responding-to-wace-in-vlcia-board-meeting.html\">\nthe previous messages.<\/a>. -jsq\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Continuing the Noll-Lofton email exchange: eight messages in this post. -jsq From: Michael G. Noll Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:42:44 +0000 Mr. Lofton. Let&#8217;s remain focused on the health risks associated with your biomass project, the most important issue for our community. 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