{"id":221,"date":"2013-01-07T08:29:41","date_gmt":"2013-01-07T13:29:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/nukes-economically-hard-to-justify-ge-ceo-immelt.html"},"modified":"2013-01-07T08:29:41","modified_gmt":"2013-01-07T13:29:41","slug":"nukes-economically-hard-to-justify-ge-ceo-immelt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/nukes-economically-hard-to-justify-ge-ceo-immelt.html","title":{"rendered":"Nukes economically hard to justify &mdash;GE CEO Immelt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nThe CEO of General Electric,\nthe company that designed the reactors\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/11\/nuclear-reactors-near-here.html\">\nat Fukushima and Hatch 1 and 2,<\/a>\nsaid nukes are economically hard to justify.\nAnd that was back in July, before\nthe first new nukes permitted in 30 years,\nat Plant Vogtle on the Savannah River,\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/15-month-delay-for-new-plant-vogtle-nukes-state-inspector-at-psc.html\">\nslipped 15 months.<\/a>\nWhat&#8217;s winning? Shale gas, temporarily, but that&#8217;s just a bump\nin the road on the way to wind and solar power.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nPilita Clark wrote for Financial Times 30 July 2012,\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ft.com\/intl\/cms\/s\/0\/60189878-d982-11e1-8529-00144feab49a.html#axzz2HICLUicf\">\nNuclear \u2018hard to justify\u2019, says GE chief<\/a>,\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ge.com\/company\/leadership\/jeff-immelt\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/www.ge.com\/sites\/default\/files\/jeff_immelt_3.jpg\"><\/a>\nNuclear power is so expensive compared with other forms of energy\nthat it has become \u201creally hard\u201d to justify, according\nto the chief executive of General Electric, one of the world&#8217;s\nlargest suppliers of atomic equipment.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u201cIt&#8217;s really a gas and wind world today,\u201d said Jeff\nImmelt, referring to two sources of electricity he said most\ncountries are shifting towards as natural gas becomes\n\u201cpermanently cheap\u201d.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u201cWhen I talk to the guys who run the oil companies they say\nlook, they&#8217;re finding more gas all the time. It&#8217;s just hard to\njustify nuclear, really hard. Gas is so cheap and at some point,\nreally, economics rule,\u201d Mr Immelt told the Financial Times in\nan interview in London at the weekend. \u201cSo I think some\ncombination of gas, and either wind or solar &#8230; that&#8217;s where we see\nmost countries around the world going.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/06\/solar-cheaper-than-fossil-power-in-five-years-mark-m-little-of-ge.html\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017c3565fc9c970b\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017c3565fc9c970b-pi.jpg\"    \/><\/a>\nGE CEO Immelt may also want to talk to GE&#8217;s own research director\n\n<!--more-->\nMark M. Little,\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/06\/solar-cheaper-than-fossil-power-in-five-years-mark-m-little-of-ge.html\">\nwho said in May 2011<\/a> that\nsolar will be cheaper than fossil power in five years.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/what-is-moores-law-for-solar-power.html\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017ee697b1d0970d\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017ee697b1d0970d-pi.png\"   width=\"250\" height=\"185\"  \/><\/a>\nLittle didn&#8217;t even explicitly mention Moore&#8217;s Law,\nas in the three-decade-long steady decrease in price\nand\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/2012-solar-deployments-driven-by-moores-law-price-reductions.html\">\nincrease in watts generated per $100 of PV cells<\/a>\nthat has already\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/what-is-moores-law-for-solar-power.html\">\ndriven solar deployments up exponentially and will keep doing so for years.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\nShale gas is not going to last, not even so much because of\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/fake-fracking-reports-professor-and-institute-head-quit-other-institute-disbanded.html\">\nfake fracking studies taking down institutes that produce them<\/a>,\nor even because\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/frack-human-error.html\">\npeople are catching on to fracking human errors,<\/a>\nor even because\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/fracking-coming-soon-to-a-state-near-you.html\">\nnobody wants fracking underneath their back yard.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2013\/01\/carbon-bubble-solar-and-wind-erode-coal-gas-and-biomass-credit-quality-moodys.html\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3f77e35c970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3f77e35c970c-pi.png\"    \/><\/a>\nThe same thing that has made shale gas temporarily popular will\nbe its downfall:\nprice.\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2013\/01\/carbon-bubble-solar-and-wind-erode-coal-gas-and-biomass-credit-quality-moodys.html\">\nMoody&#8217;s is already declaring the financial uncompetiveness of thermal\ngeneration (coal, oil, and gas) companies in Europe.<\/a>\nThe resulting carbon bubble is going make such companies shift to\nwind and solar or go down, and even-more-expensive nuclear is even worse.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThat&#8217;s why\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/renewables-are-winning-nukes-are-dead-and-coal-is-crashing.html\">\nRenewables are Winning, Nukes are Dead, and Coal is Crashing.<\/a>\nThe winners:\nwind, and increasingly solar power.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nExcept of course in Georgia,\nwith our\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/12\/financing-solar-energy-georgias-special-problem.html\">\nspecial financing problem.<\/a>\nHey, the legislature meets next week!\nIf enough of us ask them to,\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/11\/gasu-wins-at-ga-psc-but-will-gasu-help-all-of-us-win-in-the-legislature.html\">\nmaybe they will fix that.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n-jsq\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The CEO of General Electric, the company that designed the reactors at Fukushima and Hatch 1 and 2, said nukes are economically hard to justify. 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