{"id":2138,"date":"2011-04-22T23:26:27","date_gmt":"2011-04-23T03:26:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/04\/self-executing-mode-john-fretti.html"},"modified":"2011-04-22T23:26:27","modified_gmt":"2011-04-23T03:26:27","slug":"self-executing-mode-john-fretti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/04\/self-executing-mode-john-fretti.html","title":{"rendered":"Self-executing mode &mdash;John Fretti"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Someone posting as<br \/>\nMayor John Fretti of Valdosta responded in a comment to<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/04\/public-criticism-leigh-touchton.html\">Leigh Touchton.<\/a><br \/>\nMayor Fretti, please point us to where on the web is the<br \/>\nvideo you mention. -jsq<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Update 12:13 AM 23 April 2011:<\/strong> Mayor Fretti confirms (through three different channels) that this post was by him:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nTHat was my post. an attempt to reach out and help explain a few things. the video, as was al evidence in the case was exchanged durig the discovery part of the motion. the video should be with that.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I have asked him whether an open records request would produce the video.<br \/>\nBack to the original post. -jsq<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.valdostacity.com\/Index.aspx?page=44\"><br \/>\n<img style=\"float:right;border:none;\"\nwidth=\"270\" height=\"337\"\nsrc=\"http:\/\/www.valdostacity.com\/Modules\/ShowImage.aspx?imageid=600\"><\/a><br \/>\nWith all due respect to Leigh\u2019s version of the arrest &#8211; and it is all<br \/>\non video, it happened in the end by way of self &#8211; executing mode. After<br \/>\nrepeated requests for the group to relinquish the podium and rose stating<br \/>\neach time that they will not and we &#8220;must do what we have to do&#8221;. the<br \/>\nMayor asked if there was any objection from Council or city manager or<br \/>\nattorney if WE allow Chief Frank Simons to approach the crowd and do<br \/>\nwhat he sees necessary to allow the meeting to continue efficiently and<br \/>\neffectively. There was some discussion and then John Fason (Cmdr.) asked<br \/>\nif anyone wants to go to jail &#8211; to follow him. and they all did &#8211; no<br \/>\ncuffs, no restraints. Peacefully. That\u2019s it. and all on video for all<br \/>\nto see. With respect to the charges filed, they were old STATE charges and<br \/>\nwere ruled out as overbroad and (something else). That was fine. There was<br \/>\nan appeal by the solicitor General and again the old STATE laws were ruled<br \/>\noverbroad and (something else). as they should have been. We have our own<br \/>\nlocal laws and ordinances now that have been tested strong in court.<\/p>\n<p>\nand<br \/>\nnow here it the Paul Harvey moment&#8230;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe group then filed a civil case<br \/>\non several (7 I think) counts. Each case was for $75.00 (for ech person,<br \/>\nI assume) There were depositions and discovery for weeks. Mine was 3 hours<br \/>\nand 57 minutes (I think). It cost money on both sides. in the end, Judge<br \/>\nHugh Lawson ruled in favor of the defendant(the city) on all charges. The<br \/>\ncity then entered a plea for cost recovery (out of pocket costs only) &#8211;<br \/>\nwhich was awarded to the city. the group was to pay just over $16,000 to<br \/>\nthe city or $1457.00 each. We didn&#8217;t push the issue after complaints of<br \/>\nno money, poverty and hardships. We had the option of putting a lean on<br \/>\nproperty &#8211; which we did not chose to do.<\/p>\n<p>\nSo, as I see it &#8211; everyone got<br \/>\noff rather well. A local government is not held responsible for using<br \/>\na STATE code that is antiquated. Again and respectfully, this maybe how<br \/>\nLeigh remembers it. she had a rough 36 hours or so immediately following<br \/>\nthat night. I tool the liberty in the last month of so to watch and listne<br \/>\nto the recordings so I could refresh. in fact, one of the recordings may<br \/>\nbe found at the office of Rob Plumb &#8211; who is a good man and an excellent<br \/>\nattorney. I write this for the good of the order and the historical<br \/>\nfacts of the group. I thought they might be important. I hope posting<br \/>\nhere doesn&#8217;t constitute any breach of internal social doctrine. I just<br \/>\nwanted to be helpful&#8230;and above all &#8211; civil. please don&#8217;t yell at me<br \/>\nor become angry with me&#8230;I have two more short posts to follow.<\/p>\n<p>\n-John F.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Someone posting as Mayor John Fretti of Valdosta responded in a comment to Leigh Touchton. Mayor Fretti, please point us to where on the web is the video you mention. -jsq Update 12:13 AM 23 April 2011: Mayor Fretti confirms (through three different channels) that this post was by him: THat was my post. an [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[97,48,19,72,20,22,54,4099,4074],"tags":[669,3098,8720,3881,8701,8730,4680,3839,8710,4020,7,2495,812,6],"class_list":["post-2138","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-activism","category-code-enforcement","category-history","category-incarceration","category-law","category-politics","category-valdosta-city-council","category-vcc-5-may-2005","category-vcc-21-april-2005","tag-appeal","tag-arrest","tag-code-enforcement","tag-frank-simons","tag-georgia","tag-incarceration","tag-john-fason","tag-john-j-fretti","tag-law","tag-leigh-touchton","tag-lowndes-county","tag-mayor","tag-ordinance","tag-valdosta"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2138","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2138"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2138\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}