{"id":198,"date":"2013-01-15T11:53:35","date_gmt":"2013-01-15T16:53:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/centralized-nuclear-bad-investment.html"},"modified":"2013-01-15T11:53:35","modified_gmt":"2013-01-15T16:53:35","slug":"centralized-nuclear-bad-investment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/centralized-nuclear-bad-investment.html","title":{"rendered":"Centralized Nuclear Bad Investment?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nA writer for Forbes spells out the question of nuclear investment:<br \/>\nhow can something that expensive, over-budget, late, and phenomenally<br \/>\nrisky be a good investment, especially when cheaper and faster energy<br \/>\nsources are readily available?\n<\/p>\n<p>\nPeter Kelly-Detwiler wrote for Forbes today,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/peterdetwiler\/2013\/01\/15\/new-centralized-nuclear-plants-still-an-investment-worth-making\/\"><br \/>\nNew Centralized Nuclear Plants: Still an Investment Worth Making?<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.southerncompany.com\/nuclearenergy\/vogtle.aspx\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7c4970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7c4970c-pi.jpg\"    \/><\/a><br \/>\nJust a few years ago, the US nuclear renaissance seemed at hand. It<br \/>\nprobably shouldn&#8217;t have been. Cost overruns from Finland to France<br \/>\nto the US were already becoming manifest, government guarantees were<br \/>\nin doubt, and shale gas drillers were beginning to punch holes into<br \/>\nthe ground with abandon.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThen came Fukushima. The latter proved a somewhat astonishing<br \/>\nreminder of forgotten lessons about nuclear power risks, unique to<br \/>\nthat technology: A failure of one power plant in an isolated<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/06\/fukushima-destroying-nuclear-owning-electric-power-utilities.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b016306155d3c970d\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b016306155d3c970d-pi.jpg\"    \/><\/a><br \/>\nlocation can create a contagion in countries far away, and even<br \/>\nwhere somewhat different variants of that technology are in use.<br \/>\nJust as Three Mile Island put the kaibosh on nuclear power in the US<br \/>\nfor decades, Fukushima appears to have done the same for Japan and<br \/>\nGermany, at a minimum. It certainly did not help public opinion, and<br \/>\nat a minimum, the effect of Fukushima will likely be to increase<br \/>\npermitting and associated regulatory costs.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nHe goes into detail: they take too long (while gas and solar got cheaper),<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re extremely expensive to build and run, and they&#8217;re all-or-nothing<br \/>\ninvestments.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI was going to compile this list of recent nuclear financial failures,<br \/>\nbut he saves us all the trouble:\n<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Electricite de France\u2019s Flamanville plant has<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plant\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7cb970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7cb970c-pi.jpg\"    \/><\/a><br \/>\nseen its budget explode from 3.3 to 6 bn (July 2011)<br \/>\nto <a title=\"EDF Raises Cost Estimate for Flamanville\" href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/BT-CO-20121203-708486.html\">8<br \/>\nbn Euros ($10.5 bn) <\/a>&nbsp;as of last December, with a delay of<br \/>\nfour years over original targets. &nbsp;EDF in part blames stricter<br \/>\npost-Fukushima regulations for part of the overrun). &nbsp;To the<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Olkiluoto_Nuclear_Power_Plant\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7d2970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7d2970c-pi.jpg\"    \/><\/a><br \/>\nnorth,&nbsp;Finland\u2019s Olkiluoto \u2013 being constructed by Areva \u2013 has<br \/>\nseen delays of nearly five years, and enormous cost overruns. &nbsp;The<br \/>\noriginal turnkey cost of 3.0 bn Euros has skyrocketed beyond all fears,<br \/>\nincreasing at least 250%. Just last month, Areva\u2019s CEO conceded <a href=\"http:\/\/yle.fi\/uutiset\/tvo_unperturbed_by_nuclear_reactors_spiralling_cost_estimates\/6415992\">\u201cWe<br \/>\nestimate that the costs of Olkiluoto are near those of Flamanville.\u201d<br \/>\n<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>In the US, recent experience doesn\u2019t look much better:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear-news.org\/NN_Levy_nuclear_project_moved_back_by_three_years_0205122.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7ff970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec7ff970c-pi.jpg\"   width=\"230\"  \/><\/a><br \/>\nProgress Energy (now Duke) first announced the 2,200 MW Levy<br \/>\nnuclear project in 2006, with an estimated price tag of $4 to $6 bn<br \/>\nand an online date of 2016.  The cost estimated increased to $17<br \/>\nbn in 2008.  This year, Progress announced the project would cost<br \/>\n<a title=\"Duke Energy Executive: Levy County Nuclear Plant Will Be Built\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tampabay.com\/news\/business\/energy\/duke-energy-executive-levy-county-nuclear-plant-will-be-built\/1250819\">$24 billion<br \/>\nand come online in 2024.  <\/a>  The Levy plant currently has a<br \/>\ndebt in excess of $1.1 bn for which customers had already paid $545<br \/>\nmillion through 2011.  As of now, the utility plans to proceed,<br \/>\nwith the Executive VP for Power Generation stating \u201dWe\u2019ve<br \/>\nmade a decision to build Levy&#8230; I\u2019m confident in the schedule and<br \/>\nnumbers.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>In Georgia, Vogtle Units 3 and 4 (owned jointly by a number<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2013\/01\/vogtle-reactor-vessel-sitting-unprotected-at-savannah-port.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\" class=\"at-xid-6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec808970c\" src=\"\/blog\/images\/6a0120a58214e4970b017d3ffec808970c-pi.jpg\"   width=\"200\"  \/><\/a><br \/>\nof utilities, including Georgia Power) appear in somewhat better<br \/>\nshape, but issues have cropped up there as well.  Customers<br \/>\ncurrently pay $10 per month in advance to cover financing<br \/>\nassociated with the two 1,117 MW units.  Georgia Power is allowed<br \/>\nby legislation to recover <a title=\"Southern Company 10Q November 2011\" href=\"http:\/\/investor.southerncompany.com\/secfiling.cfm?filingID=92122-12-149&amp;CIK=092122\">$1.7<br \/>\nbn in financing costs of its estimated $6.1 bn portion of the $14 bn<br \/>\nplant during the construction period <\/a>.  However, there have already<br \/>\nbeen some cost problems, and <a title=\"Vogtle Costs Approved Despite\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ajc.com\/news\/business\/vogtle-costs-approved-despite-warnings-of-overruns\/nRMNc\/\">Georgia<br \/>\nPower is disputing its responsibility to pay $425 million <\/a><br \/>\nof overruns resulting from delays in licensing approvals.  Total<br \/>\ncost excesses to all partners total $875 mn.  The two units were<br \/>\nexpected to come online in 2016 and 2017, but in a Georgia PSC<br \/>\nmeeting in December, an independent monitor noted that expected<\/p>\n<table style=\"float:right;width:200px;\"  >\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"font-size: 120%; color: red;\">\n\u201cFrom 2007 to 2010, the NRC received 18 nuclear applications<br \/>\n( of which only twelve are still active).  Of these, the<br \/>\nconsulting outfit Analysis Group reported that for eight plants<br \/>\nwhere they were able to obtain two or more comparable cost estimate,<br \/>\n7 are over budget (including Levy and Vogtle), with updated numbers<br \/>\n\u201coften double or triple initial estimates.\u201d\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>delays of fifteen months are <a title=\"Monitor: Paperwork Problems\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ajc.com\/news\/business\/monitor-paperwork-problems-a-drag-on-vogtle-schedu\/nTZbX\/\">largely<br \/>\nas a result of poor paperwork <\/a> related to stringent design rules and<br \/>\nquality assurance.  Those delays will likely continue to cost more money.\n<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, these experiences are not outliers.<br \/>\nFrom 2007 to 2010, the NRC received 18 nuclear applications<br \/>\n(of which only twelve are still active).  Of these, the<br \/>\nconsulting outfit Analysis Group reported that for eight plants<br \/>\nwhere they were able to obtain two or more comparable cost estimate, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iaumc.org\/console\/files\/oFiles_Library_XZXLCZ\/2011NuclearPower-EstimatingCosts_QFZL5NXD.pdf\">7<br \/>\nare over budget (including Levy and Vogtle), with updated numbers<br \/>\n\u201coften double or triple initial estimates.\u201d <\/a>  This is consistent<br \/>\nwith an MIT study estimating \u2018overnight\u2019 costs nearly doubling from<br \/>\n2002 to 2007.   As utilities management consultant Stephen Maloney was<br \/>\nquoted in the Analysis Group study \u201cNo one has ever built a contemporary<br \/>\nreactor to contemporary standards, so no one has the experience to state<br \/>\nwith confidence what it will cost.  We see cost escalations as companies<br \/>\ncoming up the learning curve.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Last August, Exelon abandoned plans to construct<br \/>\ntwo facilities in Texas, blaming low natural gas prices.<br \/>\nTwo months later, Dominion Resources announced that it would <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tampabay.com\/news\/business\/floridas-public-service-commission-says-levy-county-nuclear-project-is\/1263370\">shut<br \/>\ndown its existing Kewaunee station <\/a> in Wisconsin as a consequence of<br \/>\nlow gas prices and a lack of buyers.  The latter move was particularly<br \/>\neye-opening: building a nuclear plant is supposed to be the expensive<br \/>\npart, while operation is expected to be relatively cheap.  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThe Forbes writer doesn&#8217;t even mention San Onofre or South Texas or Seabrook<br \/>\n(more on those tomorrow).<br \/>\nHe ends by comparing the utilities investing in these things to gamblers,<br \/>\nand says ratepayers are often at the table whether they want to or not.<br \/>\nWell, we don&#8217;t have to be.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s time for an intervention!\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe Georgia legislature is in session.<br \/>\nYou can contact<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/03\/separate-cwip-payments-to-georgia-power-wace-call-for-action.html\"><br \/>\nyour legislator or the PSC<\/a> today<br \/>\nabout<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/10\/southern-companys-three-legged-nuclear-regulatory-capture-stool.html\"><br \/>\ntoppling Southern Company&#8217;s three-legged nuclear regulatory-capture stool<\/a><br \/>\nand<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2012\/11\/gasu-wins-at-ga-psc-but-will-gasu-help-all-of-us-win-in-the-legislature.html\"><br \/>\nfixing that 1973 Territoriality Law<\/a><br \/>\nso we can get on with solar and wind in Georgia,<br \/>\nfor jobs and energy independence, for clean air and<br \/>\nplenty of clean<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2013\/01\/putting-conservation-into-conservatives-john-s-quarterman2.html\"><br \/>\nwater<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n-jsq\n<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A writer for Forbes spells out the question of nuclear investment: how can something that expensive, over-budget, late, and phenomenally risky be a good investment, especially when cheaper and faster energy sources are readily available? Peter Kelly-Detwiler wrote for Forbes today, New Centralized Nuclear Plants: Still an Investment Worth Making? Just a few years ago, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[97,48,14,16,70,17,8,18,2,19,104,21,22,32,73,289,53,3],"tags":[8736,910,903,8720,912,909,8704,906,8706,8728,908,904,907,426,167,8707,8701,8708,8781,8699,8709,427,627,8702,905,12,7,911,117,8737,8711,8712,8715,389,8731,8758,108,8725,237,902,8700,6,626,913],"class_list":["post-198","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-activism","category-code-enforcement","category-economy","category-environment","category-ethics","category-ga-psc","category-georgia","category-georgia-power","category-government","category-history","category-nuclear","category-planning","category-politics","category-pollution","category-safety","category-science","category-sustainability","category-transparency","tag-activism","tag-analysis-group","tag-chernobyl","tag-code-enforcement","tag-dominion-resources","tag-duke","tag-economy","tag-electricite-de-france","tag-environment","tag-ethics","tag-exelon","tag-finland","tag-flamanville","tag-france","tag-fukushima","tag-ga-psc","tag-georgia","tag-georgia-power","tag-germany","tag-government","tag-history","tag-japan","tag-kewaunee","tag-lake","tag-levy","tag-lowndes-area-knowledge-exchange","tag-lowndes-county","tag-mit","tag-nrc","tag-nuclear","tag-planning","tag-politics","tag-pollution","tag-progress-energy","tag-safety","tag-science","tag-southern-company","tag-sustainability","tag-texas","tag-three-mile-island","tag-transparency","tag-valdosta","tag-vogtle","tag-wisconsin-plant-vogtle"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=198"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=198"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=198"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=198"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}