{"id":1350,"date":"2011-10-24T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-24T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/10\/cameras-at-lowndes-county-commission-11-october-2011.html"},"modified":"2011-10-24T08:00:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-24T12:00:00","slug":"cameras-at-lowndes-county-commission-11-october-2011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2011\/10\/cameras-at-lowndes-county-commission-11-october-2011.html","title":{"rendered":"Cameras at Lowndes County Commission 11 October 2011"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What does a bill of attainder mean, anyway?<br \/>\nPerhaps Lowndes County should ask their Attorney to look it up.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=THVOQmcfRy8&#038;list=PL429C7AAADB11F7AD&#038;index=2\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/i1.ytimg.com\/vi\/THVOQmcfRy8\/default.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nHere&#8217;s an interesting presentation by a group of 4-H people<br \/>\nto the Lowndes County Commission in their Regular Sessino of 11 October 2011.<br \/>\nHm, first they said the pledge, and what&#8217;s that I see?<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/6274560725\/in\/photostream\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6048\/6274560725_93fa1349d2.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nWhy look, it&#8217;s a camera!<\/p>\n<p>\nHere during the 4-H presentation,<br \/>\nshe&#8217;s moved up to the second row from the front, right side:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/6275087480\/in\/photostream\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6230\/6275087480_c5cbb1572c.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nWhat seems familiar about that location?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/photographers-to-the-back-of-the-room-ashley-paulk-lcc-12-september-2011.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/i4.ytimg.com\/vi\/GTRSLbogqdw\/default.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nOh, yes, that&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/photographers-to-the-back-of-the-room-ashley-paulk-lcc-12-september-2011.html\"><br \/>\nexactly where I was sitting<\/a> when Chairman Ashley Paulk claimed he was<br \/>\nthe legal opinion and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&ldquo;The County Commission wishes from this day forward that any filming be done from the media area in the back corner of the room.&rdquo;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nWell, maybe the Chairman just didn&#8217;t notice, being a busy man and all.<br \/>\nExcept he was looking straight at her:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/6274561531\/in\/photostream\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6120\/6274561531_26bdeb8df9.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nAnd here&#8217;s somebody else with a camera a bit later:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/98706376@N00\/6275089874\/in\/photostream\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none;\"  src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6093\/6275089874_21db6bc83f.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nShe&#8217;s sitting down holding up a camera directly in front of<br \/>\nAshley Paulk.<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/notice-regarding-videoing-or-photographing.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   src=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/govt\/loco\/ordinances\/small_NoticeXregardingXVideoingXorXPhotographingX9.13.2011.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nHere&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/notice-regarding-videoing-or-photographing.html\"><br \/>\nwhat was supplied by the county<\/a><br \/>\nin response to somebody else&#8217;s request<br \/>\nfor a copy of<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/ordinance-for-no-reason-not-on-the-agenda-and-not-read-to-the-public-lcc-13-september-2011.html\"><br \/>\nthe ordinance or notice or whatever it was the Commission passed<br \/>\n13 September 2011<\/a>.<br \/>\nI suppose somebody could argue that the Pledge isn&#8217;t really part of the<br \/>\nbusiness of the Commission, and maybe the same for a presentation.<br \/>\nBut there they are, right there on<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/10\/sgmc-comprehensive-plan-and-4-h-at-county-commission-10-11-october-2011.html\"><br \/>\nthe agenda:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n3. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag<br \/>\n<br \/>\n4. 4-H Presentation\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The &#8220;Notice&#8221; does have some weasel words about &#8220;unless otherwise permitted<br \/>\nby the presiding Commissioner.&#8221;<br \/>\nHere&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PL429C7AAADB11F7AD\"><br \/>\na playlist<\/a>; see if you hear any permission being given.<\/p>\n<p>\nAs we have seen, there was<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/news-so-good-theres-a-law-against-it.html\"><br \/>\nno reason given for the Commission&#8217;s vote<\/a> on the Notice (or was it an ordinance?)<br \/>\nother than the Chairman&#8217;s outburst of the previous morning, in which he<br \/>\ncalled me by name, and referred specifically to the LAKE blog.<\/p>\n<p>\nA cynic might consult<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.techlawjournal.com\/glossary\/legal\/attainder.htm\"><br \/>\na law journal<\/a> about arcane phrases like<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&ldquo;No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed.&rdquo;<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&mdash;U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and learn that a bill of attainder is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nDefinition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group<br \/>\nfor punishment without a trial.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>James Madison (who probably wrote that clause) thought bills of attainder were<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&ldquo;contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to<br \/>\nevery principle of sound legislation. &#8230; The sober people of America<br \/>\nare weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public<br \/>\ncouncils.&rdquo;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, I have to admit that the Chairman claiming to be code enforcement<br \/>\nor the legal opinion or otherwise to be the law<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t all that fluctuating around here,<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/ashley-paulks-greatest-hits.html\"><br \/>\nsince he&#8217;s done it repeatedly.<\/a><br \/>\nBut Madison would probably still argue that bills of attainder<br \/>\nare contrary to the social compact and to sound legislation.<br \/>\nNot to mention to the decorum of Commission meetings.<br \/>\nHow is anyone to know when it&#8217;s safe to use a camera or when<br \/>\nthe Chairman or the Commission might choose to pass another ordinance against them, too?<\/p>\n<p>\nNow I can&#8217;t blame the two citizen photographers for<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/blog\/2011\/09\/news-so-good-theres-a-law-against-it.html\"><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none;\"   width=\"112\" height=\"150\" src=\"http:\/\/catherinedelors.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Louis-14-statue-Versailles.jpg\"><\/a><br \/>\nwanting to record part<br \/>\nof a Commission meeting; I&#8217;ve been doing it for years, as has Gretchen,<br \/>\nand George Rhynes, and other people whom you may not have noticed.<br \/>\nHowever, since the Commission gave that fabulous award specifically to LAKE,<br \/>\nit seems to me they should either enforce it evenly, or admit<br \/>\nit was, in fact, a bill of attainder.<\/p>\n<p>\nHere&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=THVOQmcfRy8&#038;list=PL429C7AAADB11F7AD&#038;index=2\"><br \/>\nthe video:<\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" width=\"480\" height=\"390\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/THVOQmcfRy8\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<small><br \/>\n<br \/>\nRegular Session, Lowndes County Commission (LCC),<br \/>\n<br \/>\nValdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 11 October 2011.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nVideos by Gretchen Quarterman for LAKE, the Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange.<br \/>\n<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\n-jsq<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does a bill of attainder mean, anyway? Perhaps Lowndes County should ask their Attorney to look it up. Here&#8217;s an interesting presentation by a group of 4-H people to the Lowndes County Commission in their Regular Sessino of 11 October 2011. Hm, first they said the pledge, and what&#8217;s that I see? Why look, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[202,48,40,70,2,19,20,3571,3572,3352],"tags":[3353,821,2392,3573,3404,8701,10,3574,8702,91,12,7,8734,4,6],"class_list":["post-1350","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-agriculture","category-code-enforcement","category-community","category-ethics","category-government","category-history","category-law","category-lcc-12-september-2011","category-lcc-13-september-2011","category-lcc-11-october-2011","tag-11-october-2011","tag-4-h","tag-bill-of-attainder","tag-camera","tag-constitution","tag-georgia","tag-gretchen-quarterman","tag-james-madison","tag-lake","tag-lcc","tag-lowndes-area-knowledge-exchange","tag-lowndes-county","tag-lowndes-county-commission","tag-regular-session","tag-valdosta"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1350","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1350"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1350\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1350"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1350"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1350"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}