{"id":12295,"date":"2015-02-19T11:13:13","date_gmt":"2015-02-19T16:13:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/?p=12295"},"modified":"2015-02-19T11:17:09","modified_gmt":"2015-02-19T16:17:09","slug":"tesla-opening-market-for-home-solar-batteries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2015\/02\/tesla-opening-market-for-home-solar-batteries.html","title":{"rendered":"Tesla opening market for home solar batteries"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.solarcity.com\/residential\/energy-storage\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" src=\"http:\/\/www.solarcity.com\/sites\/default\/files\/tesla-storage-unit.png\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nElon Musk&#8217;s recent reminder that Tesla is working on a house-sized battery<br \/>\nhas caused quite a stir, but not enough. Tesla alone isn&#8217;t the significant part:<br \/>\nTesla opening a market for inexpensive home solar storage methods is.<br \/>\nAnd not all those methods will be batteries: also coming are capacitors,<br \/>\norganic vats, compressed air, and water pumped up towers,<br \/>\nfor storage to car- and house- size to municipal- and utility-scale,<br \/>\nall of which will drive solar and wind deployment even faster.<\/p>\n<p>\nJohn McDuling, QZ, 30 July 2014,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/qz.com\/241973\/how-solar-energy-storage-could-make-tesla-much-more-than-an-automaker\/\"><br \/>\nHow solar energy storage could make Tesla much more than an automaker<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\nHow lucrative could the solar energy storage business be for Tesla?<br \/>\nAlmost as lucrative as selling cars.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThat&#8217;s according to Morgan Stanley, which this week<!--more--><\/p>\n<p> placed a<br \/>\nfigure&mdash;$2 billion&mdash;on how much it thinks Tesla could make<br \/>\nin annual revenue from solar energy storage. That&#8217;s assuming that<br \/>\nits &ldquo;gigafactory&rdquo;&mdash;a massive lithium-ion battery<br \/>\nproduction facility, which is currently still in the planning<br \/>\nstages&mdash;is up and running by the end of the decade.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThat was six months ago.<br \/>\nAnd for that matter, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.solarcity.com\/residential\/energy-storage\">SolarCity already offers a home battery based on Tesla technology<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\nSolarCity&#8217;s residential battery system can help you keep the lights<br \/>\non and fridge cold in a power outage or natural disaster while<br \/>\npotentially saving you even more on your monthly utility bills. Our<br \/>\nenergy storage systems are currently offered in select California<br \/>\nmarkets.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nFor that matter, I&#8217;ve had that kind of battery storage on my solar<br \/>\npanels since 2005, and they&#8217;re nothing but four deep-cell marine batteries.<br \/>\nMost people don&#8217;t have them because they&#8217;re expensive if you want enough<br \/>\nof them to handle much power.<\/p>\n<p>\nThe battery Tesla&#8217;s working on will be less expensive<br \/>\nand presumably will store more.<\/p>\n<p>\nRecent coverage of Tesla&#8217;s proposed battery<br \/>\nhave been all a-buzz about &#8220;off-grid&#8221;,<br \/>\nwhich also misses the point, as partly explained by<br \/>\nJohn McDuling, QZ, 18 February 2015,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/qz.com\/346242\/elon-musk-is-designing-a-tesla-battery-to-power-your-home\/\"><br \/>\nElon Musk is designing a Tesla battery to power your home<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\nThere&#8217;s a lot of hype about what kind of threat Tesla could pose to<br \/>\nelectricity utilities by helping people go off the grid. Morgan<br \/>\nStanley estimated last year that by 2028, Tesla&#8217;s US fleet of cars<br \/>\nwill have an energy storage capacity of 237GW which it said was<br \/>\nequal to 22% of US production capacity, and nearly 10 times larger<br \/>\nthan existing US grid storage capacity. (That analysis doesn&#8217;t even<br \/>\ntake into account batteries sold separately from cars).\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;font-size:80%\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/qz.com\/346242\/elon-musk-is-designing-a-tesla-battery-to-power-your-home\/\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:none\" src=\"https:\/\/qzprod.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/02\/colorcorrected-471.jpeg?w=640&#038;h=484\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIn reality, mass defections off the electricity grid aren&#8217;t likely.<br \/>\nSolar City CTO and Musk&#8217;s cousin Peter Rive has said he has<br \/>\n&ldquo;no interest&rdquo; in such a scenario, because &ldquo;the<br \/>\ngrid is a network, and where there are networks, there are network<br \/>\neffects.&rdquo; Also, it seems to be illegal in some states.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nTesla is actually working closely with utilities on the home battery<br \/>\nproduct. &ldquo;There&#8217;s a lot of interest, and a lot of utilities<br \/>\nworking in this space, and we&#8217;re talking to almost all of<br \/>\nthem,&rdquo; chief technology officer JB Straubel said on the<br \/>\nconference call. More likely, the batteries will help people sell<br \/>\nexcess energy back into the grid, and save money on their electric<br \/>\nbills.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nRive envisages a scenario where batteries with storage capacity were<br \/>\noptimized across the grid, allowing utilities to direct clean solar<br \/>\nelectricity more efficiently, lowering costs for everyone and<br \/>\nhelping the environment. &ldquo;We can do so much more working<br \/>\ntogether than we can working alone.&rdquo;\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nAs<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/solar-power-will-win-like-the-internet-did.html\"><br \/>\na veteran of the Internet<\/a>, I have no interest in being off-grid.<br \/>\nI want to be able to continue to sell excess power through the grid; getting a fair market<br \/>\nprice for it would also be good.<br \/>\nAnd if I happen<br \/>\nto have a short-term need for more power, I want to be able to draw it<br \/>\nfrom the grid.<br \/>\nThe more people who do that, the more robust the grid is; way more robust through distributed generation than currently through a small number of fossilized centralized fossil fuel and nuke plants.<\/p>\n<p>\nThe real importance of Tesla&#8217;s house-sized battery is that it&#8217;s driving<br \/>\na market for solar storage.<\/p>\n<p>\nA year ago<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/organic-battery-with-no-metals-harvard-seas.html\">Harvard announced a no-metal organic battery<\/a>.<br \/>\nIn <a href=\"http:\/\/www.seas.harvard.edu\/news\/2014\/01\/organic-mega-flow-battery-promises-breakthrough-for-renewable-energy\">their announcement was this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\nBy the end of the three-year development period, Connecticut-based<br \/>\nSustainable Innovations, LLC, a collaborator on the project, expects<br \/>\nto deploy demonstration versions of the organic flow battery<br \/>\ncontained in a unit the size of a horse trailer. The portable,<br \/>\nscaled-up storage system could be hooked up to solar panels on the<br \/>\nroof of a commercial building, and electricity from the solar panels<br \/>\ncould either directly supply the needs of the building or go into<br \/>\nstorage and come out of storage when there&#8217;s a need. Sustainable<br \/>\nInnovations anticipates playing a key role in the product&#8217;s<br \/>\ncommercialization by leveraging its ultra-low cost electrochemical<br \/>\ncell design and system architecture already under development for<br \/>\nenergy storage applications.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&ldquo;You could theoretically put this on any node on the<br \/>\ngrid,&rdquo; Aziz said. &ldquo;If the market price fluctuates<br \/>\nenough, you could put a storage device there and buy electricity to<br \/>\nstore it when the price is low and then sell it back when the price<br \/>\nis high. In addition, you might be able to avoid the permitting and<br \/>\ngas supply problems of having to build a gas-fired power plant just<br \/>\nto meet the occasional needs of a growing peak demand.&rdquo;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThis technology could also provide very useful backup for off-grid<br \/>\nrooftop solar panels&mdash;an important advantage considering some<br \/>\n20 percent of the world&#8217;s population does not have access to a power<br \/>\ndistribution network.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nSo if they&#8217;re on schedule, that&#8217;s two more years until you&#8217;ll see<br \/>\ndemonstration versions of Harvard&#8217;s organic battery capable of<br \/>\nstoring energy for a house.<\/p>\n<p>\nTeresa Henry, IDTechEx PR, 24 June 2104,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.idtechex.com\/research\/articles\/supercapacitors-can-destroy-the-lithium-ion-battery-market-00006649.asp?donotredirect=true\"><br \/>\nSupercapacitors can destroy the lithium-ion battery market<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\nAs tracked by market research company IDTechEx and further explained in the recently updated report<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.idtechex.com\/research\/reports\/electrochemical-double-layer-capacitors-supercapacitors-2014-2024-000378.asp\"><br \/>\nElectrochemical Double Layer Capacitors: Supercapacitors 2014-2024<\/a>,<br \/>\nsupercapacitors are improving faster than lithium-ion batteries in most respects.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThen there&#8217;s<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/slight-changes-at-southern-company-so-2014-05-28.html\"><br \/>\nSouthern Company&#8217;s compressed air underground power storage project<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd Georgia&#8217;s own Robert E. Greene will be presenting 18 March 2015<br \/>\nat the<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gawp.org\/events\/event_details.asp?id=470430\"><br \/>\nGeorgia Association of Water Professionals<\/a> (GAWP)<br \/>\nabout pumping water up additional water towers:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\n<p>\n&#8230;to see if we can smooth out the intermittent nature of solar energy<br \/>\nby storing more elevated water than we do currently. You are able to<br \/>\nbring more solar energy to bear on the total water demand if you can<br \/>\nstore the solar energy in the form of elevated water. It is perhaps<br \/>\nthe best form of a solar battery. It is just a &#8216;Physics to Finance&#8217;<br \/>\ncalculation that should reveal how close we can come to operating<br \/>\nwater treatment plants 100% on solar energy.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nI don&#8217;t care which one wins: I hope they all do, for power storage from<br \/>\ncar-size to house-size to municipal to utility-scale.<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd we don&#8217;t even need to wait on new energy storage methods.<br \/>\nWe already know<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2014\/03\/100-sun-wind-and-water-can-power-each-u-s-state-and-the-world-stanford-study.html\"><br \/>\nhow to power each and every U.S. state<\/a> with sun<br \/>\nwind, and water through a distributed smart grid.<br \/>\nWe just need to stop listening to entrenched utility executives such as<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2015\/01\/tva-needs-to-listen-to-former-chair-s-david-friedman-about-solar-power.html\">the current head of the TVA<\/a><br \/>\nand get on with deploying solar and wind power,<br \/>\nas<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.l-a-k-e.org\/blog\/2015\/02\/hb-57-solar-financing-bill-unanimously-passed-georgia-house.html\"><br \/>\neven Georgia Power has finally sort of decided to do<\/a>.<br \/>\n<P><br \/>\nAnd affordable energy storage, whether batteries or capacitors or grown in vats or pumped up water towers, will drive solar and wind deployment even faster.<br \/>\nI look forward to the warm clean breeze of a sun, wind, and water-powered world.<\/p>\n<p>\n -jsq<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elon Musk&#8217;s recent reminder that Tesla is working on a house-sized battery has caused quite a stir, but not enough. 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